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A More All Inclusive Economic Quiz
eboyd Date: Monday, 27/Feb/12, 0:38 AM | Message # 1

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this is from the Center for a Stateless Society which is a free market, anti-capitalist website (mostly mutualists, agorists, and others that identify as "left-Rothbardians"). it was made to allow a differentiation between a broad array of ideologies from anarchists to nationalists, left-wing to right-wing, etc. it differentiates people based on 5 different spectrums: from anarchists to statists, leftists to rightists, libertarians to authoritarians, liberals to conservatives, militarists to anti-militarists. take the quiz and find out where you lie on the spectrum:

http://c4ss.org/quiz


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eboyd Date: Monday, 27/Feb/12, 0:40 AM | Message # 2

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i got:

90% economic leftist
71% anarchist
100% anti-militarist
90% socio-cultural liberal
67% civil libertarian


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Greeny Date: Monday, 27/Feb/12, 12:38 PM | Message # 3

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Blimey, 106 questions. I'm only through 24 and already I gotta take a break. :0

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55... lol I must've looked up like 20 words in the dictionary.

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47% Economic Leftist
26% Anarchist
79% Anti-Militarist
83% Socio-Cultural Liberal
70% Civil Libertarian

Well I see, we both lean the same way, though I'm not the extremist that you are ;D
It's probably because I wasn't completely determined in some of the matters, so I didn't wanna say "strongly disagree/agree" very much.


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eboyd Date: Monday, 27/Feb/12, 5:38 PM | Message # 4

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nice :) yeah, it's to be expected though considering i am a self-identified anarchist.

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Treach Date: Tuesday, 28/Feb/12, 5:09 PM | Message # 5

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ooh i love quizzes lol. this is interesting, although im still figuring shit out for myself. im gonna do this tomorrow cus im tired as hell and i can barely make out the sentences heh..

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Menace Date: Wednesday, 29/Feb/12, 5:07 PM | Message # 6

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74% Economic Leftist (Economic Leftist / Economic Rightist)
59% Anarchist (Anarchist / Statist)
96% Anti-Militarist (Anti-Militarist / Militarist)
79% Socio-Cultural Liberal (Socio-Cultural Liberal / Socio-Cultural Conservative)
43% Civil Libertarian (Civil Libertarian / Civil Authoritarian)


Treach Date: Wednesday, 29/Feb/12, 5:11 PM | Message # 7

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60% Economic Leftist (Economic Leftist / Economic Rightist)

71% Anarchist (Anarchist / Statist)

93% Anti-Militarist (Anti-Militarist / Militarist)

69% Socio-Cultural Liberal (Socio-Cultural Liberal / Socio-Cultural Conservative)

80% Civil Libertarian (Civil Libertarian / Civil Authoritarian)


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Menace Date: Wednesday, 29/Feb/12, 5:31 PM | Message # 8

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Dude, you are more anarchist than me. Beware, being one isn't fun at all lol :D

Although to be fair, this website has some good materials, but overall, this website is bollocks. Gustave de Molinari was an anarchist? that's ridiculous, he never was and in fact condemned the anarchists of his time. And what the funk is a "left-Rothbardian"? Really, dude, the funk. Not trying to sound rude, but why do Americans love to invent political labels or just pull out of their asses politico-economic philosophies? really? the funk?

If that's the case, i will start creating my own seemingly no-sense theories myself, like anarcho-trolling, it would be the BOMB. :D

And one thing more, Erik correct me if i am wrong, wasn't Proudhon the founder of market anarchism (Mutualism)? why these people claim Gustave de Molinari was the founder? oh my brain. I need some rest.


eboyd Date: Thursday, 01/Mar/12, 6:57 PM | Message # 9

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Although to be fair, this website has some good materials, but overall, this website is bollocks. Gustave de Molinari was an anarchist? that's ridiculous, he never was and in fact condemned the anarchists of his time. And what the funk is a "left-Rothbardian"? Really, dude, the funk. Not trying to sound rude, but why do Americans love to invent political labels or just pull out of their asses politico-economic philosophies? really? the funk?


i do agree that "left-Rothbardian" is a perplexing term, and when one delves into the theories of it, it becomes obvious that Brad Spangler, founder of C4SS and Agorism (which is what one means when they say "left-Rothbardian"), has NO CLUE what "left" means in terms of economics and politics. however, from what i have seen, while there are a handful of Agorists and other pro-capitalist market "anarchists" on that site that espouse an ideology that is only "left" insofar as it proposes an economic revolution through the promotion of a black market economy, neglecting the fact that this has nothing to do with the left-wing since he still promotes private ownership of the means of production and property rights of the few to the exclusion of the many.

that said, Kevin Carson, the only currently living major proponent of mutualism, as well as other true market anarchists who support worker control over the means of production, write for them as well, and they also write for the Molinari Institute. here are a few articles i've found at each of these websites:

http://mutualist.org/id10.html
http://c4ss.org/content/9526#idc-container

basically, the idea behind true market anarchism is that, given a true free market, people will tend towards workers' control, which is an idea that has its origins in Proudhon and Hodgskin, and therefore true market anarchism is, indeed, at root a socialist ideology.

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And one thing more, Erik correct me if i am wrong, wasn't Proudhon the founder of market anarchism (Mutualism)? why these people claim Gustave de Molinari was the founder? oh my brain. I need some rest.


probably because the Molinari Institue, run by Roderick T. Long, is their parent site and Brad Spangler is the founder of this site. i am sure that many of the writers involved, such as Kevin Carson, disagree with this though. in fact, from what i've found, most people writing on this website seem to be opponents of capitalism.


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J-Breakz Date: Sunday, 11/Mar/12, 0:56 AM | Message # 10

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this is erik:

"Given a TRUE market anarchism you have a TRUE sense of anarchy with TRUE marketism that I don't really understand but there's TRUE blah blahb lbah blah im just gonna go back to beating it and hope richie notices"


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eboyd Date: Sunday, 11/Mar/12, 3:43 AM | Message # 11

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this is erik:

"Given a TRUE market anarchism you have a TRUE sense of anarchy with TRUE marketism that I don't really understand but there's TRUE blah blahb lbah blah im just gonna go back to beating it and hope richie notices"


wtf?? my point was pretty clear and i didn't in any way show a lack of understanding of what i was talking about. were you actually trying to make an argument? because if so, i don't see it. i believe, as a market anarchist, that in a truly free market, given proper knowledge of business alternatives, people will tend towards worker cooperatives. is that such a controversial and idiotic thing for me to say?


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J-Breakz Date: Sunday, 11/Mar/12, 12:33 PM | Message # 12

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no you're just tryn to find watever evidence that can be used against capitalism

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eboyd Date: Sunday, 11/Mar/12, 10:08 PM | Message # 13

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no you're just tryn to find watever evidence that can be used against capitalism


where are you inferring this from???


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Menace Date: Sunday, 11/Mar/12, 11:23 PM | Message # 14

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i do agree that "left-Rothbardian" is a perplexing term, and when one delves into the theories of it, it becomes obvious that Brad Spangler, founder of C4SS and Agorism (which is what one means when they say "left-Rothbardian"), has NO CLUE what "left" means in terms of economics and politics. however, from what i have seen, while there are a handful of Agorists and other pro-capitalist market "anarchists" on that site that espouse an ideology that is only "left" insofar as it proposes an economic revolution through the promotion of a black market economy, neglecting the fact that this has nothing to do with the left-wing since he still promotes private ownership of the means of production and property rights of the few to the exclusion of the many.

that said, Kevin Carson, the only currently living major proponent of mutualism, as well as other true market anarchists who support worker control over the means of production, write for them as well, and they also write for the Molinari Institute. here are a few articles i've found at each of these websites:

http://mutualist.org/id10.html
http://c4ss.org/content/9526#idc-container

basically, the idea behind true market anarchism is that, given a true free market, people will tend towards workers' control, which is an idea that has its origins in Proudhon and Hodgskin, and therefore true market anarchism is, indeed, at root a socialist ideology.

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And one thing more, Erik correct me if i am wrong, wasn't Proudhon the founder of market anarchism (Mutualism)? why these people claim Gustave de Molinari was the founder? oh my brain. I need some rest.

probably because the Molinari Institue, run by Roderick T. Long, is their parent site and Brad Spangler is the founder of this site. i am sure that many of the writers involved, such as Kevin Carson, disagree with this though. in fact, from what i've found, most people writing on this website seem to be opponents of capitalism.




eboyd Date: Monday, 12/Mar/12, 5:03 AM | Message # 15

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lol wtf?? haha

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