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Forum » Knowledge » Religious/Philosophical Debate » Is Chinese "miracle" real?
Is Chinese "miracle" real?
Chinita Date: Saturday, 08/Aug/09, 10:45 AM | Message # 1

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EmSeeD Date: Saturday, 08/Aug/09, 4:47 PM | Message # 2

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it's not a miracle and it's not fake either China is a market socialist country they control the means of production that being the workers themselves so they pay them the way they want China bought the assets of capitalist countries because capitalist countries spend beyond their means as consumers of production you can consider China a state capitalist country the productive forces are owned and run by the state in a capitalist way they use the wage system of producing and appropriating surplus value with ownership or control by a state apparatus that being said they can produce everything fast and cheap because the state acts like a intermediary between the market and their economy the rules of the market does not apply to the workers there because the state pays them the way the state wants and how much the state wants.

what sucks is the way those countries make them work, like South Korea they have to work almost all day that sucks, a lot of chinese are coming to nz though i think our government had this deal with China that they buy some trade or some crap and we'll take a bunch of their workers, even though they were already coming here in droves lol i'm not complaining though i've got nothing against chinese they're actually very nice people. just gonna be interesting what my city is gonna look like in the future


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Menace Date: Saturday, 08/Aug/09, 5:56 PM | Message # 3

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what sucks is the way those countries make them work, like South Korea they have to work almost all day that sucks, a lot of chinese are coming to nz though i think our government had this deal with China that they buy some trade or some crap and we'll take a bunch of their workers, even though they were already coming here in droves lol i'm not complaining though i've got nothing against chinese they're actually very nice people. just gonna be interesting what my city is gonna look like in the future

oh thanks for this real life example what the Chinese government is doing is buying NZ's assets and giving cheap labor as payment exactly as is said up there about capitalists overspending and China buying their assets who actually wins from this ordeal ? well the Chinese government and the NZ government the losers are both the workers in NZ and China


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