i use to do a lot of assuming, lean more towards that there might be a "shadowy hand guiding things" like you said before. but now im more open minded. the reason im posting stuff political here is to get a better insight on things because i know eboyd and menace know more then i do. so when i post something, it isnt going to be the official story, its going to be an alternative theory that people are talking about, and i want to hear your opinions. but instead i get laughed at and made fun of. thats very frustrating. do you understand im trying to learn more from you guys? i want SOME help here. and what do you mean by "you determine solutions to the problems" and i dont draw solutions to the problems? i cant do anything about what im researching, thats why i said i dont want to worry about it so much because its out of my hands. and i also dont fill in the holes in the story. i never really come up with a conclusion. it always turns out that if you dont believe in the official story, youre a conspiracy nut. i was kidding about believing the moon landing was faked too by the way lol but i guess we did go to the moon (obviously) but the footage was fake. now dont start jumping down my throat here. just look at this brief artical explaining it and do a little research. this is something i dont care about though, its just interesting. let me know what you think without laughing at me please. its not a conspiracy theory anymore, its conspiracy fact like the gulf of tonkin incident that never happened. remember? we lost thousands of innocent americans for nothing? remember? everyone ignores that when i bring it up?
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread420791/pg1
its true you should focus more on realistic stuff like the money issue in the world, but you cant forget about 9/11 either. people are always saying dont i ever think about the families that had loved ones die on 9/11, yet those same families are demanding answers like i am. like i said before too, the majority of the 9/11 commission that investigated 9/11 demand a new investigation. thats not me saying it, thats THEM. now that i think of it, you have a better chance getting more answers from what happened on 9/11 then stopping the 10% of the population that controls most of the wealth. tell me im wrong. and if your going to do that, please dont post a childish picture with a stupid quote. lets be a little mature here now.

If you care about 9-11 so much and don't want another one happening stop the American Empire, lobby your congressman or study geopolitics and try to show people your country is an empire that threatens world security . OMG not everything is conspiracy, i try to be civil and tried my best but i told you in my last serious message, sometimes you go on the borderline of ridiculousness and i can't do nothing but laugh, i am sorry sincerely i am.

No shit? PLEASE SOMEONE GIVE ME A LINK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

with all due respect, you linked a forum thread where the OP of the topic makes a claim and refuses to cite his sources, even merely with links, let alone reliable sources of an academic or other, similarly official nature. the reason i don't fall for the evidence that is passed my direction by 9/11 skeptic, for example, is because this is often what i get when i ask for evidence. you need to hold higher standards for your evidence. it's like that whole
debacle that occurred when that one creationist group purportedly got 200 plus signatures of scientists claiming they felt that Darwinian evolution was bunk. when you look into the actual sources you find that the majority of them were "scientists" who got their "degrees" from religious based colleges, or they were scientists in fields completely unrelated to evolution. the scientific community answered back by getting thousands of signatures within a matter of weeks from scientists specifically in the field of biology (and i think just to rub it in further they only selected scientists with a first name starting with a specific letter or something like that) to say that Darwinian evolution is the best theory we have to date explaining how different species have come to be. that's the difference between a reliable source and and unreliable source. the creationist source i mentioned above is actually more reliable than the faked moon landing source you posted. here's a link to the scientific method to help you understand my criteria for standards of evidence. pay particularly close attention to the last paragraph before the table of contents:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

it's not about what's easier, it's about what will change things for the better. what will you get out of re-evaluating 9/11? retribution? and then what? you are still stuck with a shitty system where all of us peons fight each other to death for the table scraps that are claimed by the people at the top that do nothing to deserve them. that where Menace and I, as well as other anarchists/socialists come in. we propose that more egalitarian economic and social structures be erected throughout the world to allow us low-men-on-the-totem-pole access to the world's resources, in order to make the world a better place for all. the answers exist just as well as the critiques do, you just need to do a bit of research to unearth them. i'll even give you a head start:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_cooperative
http://www.ica.coop/al-ica/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers%27_self-management
http://trustcurrency.blogspot.com/2009....ty.html
http://www.alternet.org/world....untries

and again, if you want to study 9/11 from a geopolitical standpoint, read this book. it is very short, concise, and informative, and you can buy it dirt cheap:

http://www.amazon.com/9-11-Noam-Chomsky/dp/1583224890