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Is Marxism a Religion?
Is Marxism a Religion?
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EmSeeD Date: Monday, 06/Sep/10, 7:00 AM | Message # 1

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http://www.skepticfiles.org/atheist/marxdoc.htm

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Furious_Pryme Date: Monday, 06/Sep/10, 6:53 PM | Message # 2

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Menace Date: Monday, 06/Sep/10, 10:21 PM | Message # 3

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cults of personality are inherent in any system even in capitalism look at the USA and the founding fathers and swearing allegiance and all that crap . People now days throw all the shit of the 20th century on Marxism its like everything bad came from it this is some Glenn Beck shit its a shame . HIP HOP !!!!!!!!! :D

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EmSeeD Date: Saturday, 18/Sep/10, 2:30 AM | Message # 5

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it has sacred writings,
it has a leader who controls the people, a cult of personality,
it has teachings and if you obey these teachings mankind will enter into an equal utopia (i.e a heaven on earth)

why isn't it a religion?


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Menace Date: Saturday, 18/Sep/10, 6:11 PM | Message # 6

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any form of totalitarianism has such characteristics it doesn't matter even in so called "democratic" countries like the USA , UK etc. we have such characteristics so the subject is absolute. Marxism is just a political philosophy as any other political philosophies . That really is a Glenn Beck move. If Marxism is a religion then Capitalism is a religion too and the head of the capitalist church is Obama and God acts trough the invisible hand of the free market LOL . :D Its kinda ridiculous .

eboyd Date: Tuesday, 05/Oct/10, 7:29 AM | Message # 7

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it has sacred writings

in the same sense that capitalism/liberalism have "sacred writings" if you want to call them that ("Wealth of Nations" by Adam Smith, for example).

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it has a leader who controls the people, a cult of personality,

just like with Adam Smith for capitalism and liberalism.

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it has teachings and if you obey these teachings mankind will enter into an equal utopia (i.e a heaven on earth)

the specific intent of Marxism was to create a superior economic system in which the workforce would no longer be divided and class divisions would be eliminated. there was no speak of "heaven on earth". on the flip side of that, just as Marx theorized a superior economic system that sounded to many like a utopia at the time, Adam Smith wrote his own economic theories that had the same purpose.

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why isn't it a religion?

for the same reason capitalism and liberalism aren't.

and btw, i'm not a Marxist. i just think this speak of "Marxism=cult religion" is buffoonery at it's grandest.


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Treach Date: Tuesday, 05/Oct/10, 4:53 PM | Message # 8

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eboyd Date: Wednesday, 06/Oct/10, 2:48 AM | Message # 9

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thanks comrade :)

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EmSeeD Date: Wednesday, 06/Oct/10, 5:16 PM | Message # 10

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i don't believe it, i just wanted to see what you guys would say about it :D

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eboyd Date: Wednesday, 06/Oct/10, 10:20 PM | Message # 11

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lol jackass :D it did make for an interesting topic. speaking of which, i miss I_Guy and Menace (though he was on recently) and laPennello all the political and philosophical conversations we used to have, no matter how pissed off everyone would get about them :D

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Menace Date: Thursday, 28/Oct/10, 7:51 PM | Message # 12

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I'm still here, I'm kinda sad because i can't get involved anymore as much i used too. I miss debating in a sincere sense rather then these "proffesional" debating clubs i frequent now days where everything sounds pompous and people are well dressed and nothing more. I miss all of you. :D

Back on topic. But still i can't deny it. The evolution of Marxism over the centuries into a more authoritarian philosophy with the rise of Leninism and her deviations and the practical examples of these traditions showed us that political and philosophical traditions blindly followed and dogmatically believed can be compared with the realm of religious behavior . This can go on of course if we study Marx himself that's the problem of people now days study Marx and see the causes that gave birth to modern totalitarianism instead of discrediting his whole philosophy.


eboyd Date: Saturday, 30/Oct/10, 7:37 AM | Message # 13

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after serious study i've come to the conclusion that Marxism = anarchism, though they are different solely based on the rhetoric used. the dictatorship of the proletariat is simply one form of revolutionary period, and all changes of this magnitude necessitate revolutionary periods even if their ideologues say otherwise. the supposed use of the state apparatus to prevent counter-revolution and transition from capitalism to communism is of little consequence as many anarchists wouldn't even identify the state apparatus that Marx describes to actually be the state.

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