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Cornell West vs Al Sharpton
Menace Date: Wednesday, 13/Apr/11, 10:36 PM | Message # 16

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This too is prejudice.

That's self evident

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That is tackling the person instead of his argument. Isn't taking religious beliefs of the person up as a reason to make his points invalid doing the same mistake?

No because he is a god damn evil commie and Jesus freak and pedophile that fucks capitalists in the anus jackoff

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his is the video j breakz is referring to where mos def questions 9/11.

Yeah, i already posted it in my reply to J breakz while you were writing your comment.

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wat.



TheHipHopSpot Date: Wednesday, 13/Apr/11, 10:45 PM | Message # 17

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ya i couldnt find the unedited version of it

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Adam Date: Wednesday, 13/Apr/11, 10:54 PM | Message # 18

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J-Breakz Date: Thursday, 14/Apr/11, 2:00 AM | Message # 19

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he's a socialist, you are prejudice if he was a right wing libertarian he was more fitted to talk hence this showing that you hold prejudice against socialists not to say you use 50's Cold War stereotypes.

there's no prejudice, if he was a right wing libertarian then i wouldn't think of him as an idiot because he would obviously have a better grasp of how society works.

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No he didn't, he was on Real Time with Bill Maher i have that whole season on DVD, you just puke shit our of your ass, here's the whole segment you are mentioning, you just talk nonsense, at least admit you were wrong LOL :D

oh, my bad. Mos Def said it. Gosh darn, you got me.

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this had nothing to do with the debate they were having you just make a big deal out of it.

Who said I was ever talking about the debate? I just said he was an idiot.

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This too is prejudice.

Its not prejudice. That's what faith is. Belief that goes beyond logic... meaning that you have no logical explanation that god exists, but u still believe in him.

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That is tackling the person instead of his argument. Isn't taking religious beliefs of the person up as a reason to make his points invalid doing the same mistake?

Well first of all, I wasn't "tackling his argument". I was just calling him an idiot.


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Greeny Date: Thursday, 14/Apr/11, 2:13 AM | Message # 20

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Its not prejudice. That's what faith is. Belief that goes beyond logic... meaning that you have no logical explanation that god exists, but u still believe in him.

I am aware of this, but you're basically saying that a religious person is not able to set up a logical argument.

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Well first of all, I wasn't "tackling his argument". I was just calling him an idiot.

Exactly. And his religious beliefs are irrelevant, unless he himself makes them a part of what he's talking about in politics somehow.


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Menace Date: Thursday, 14/Apr/11, 8:02 AM | Message # 21

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Ok so all socialists and religious folks are idiots, you my man are GREAT...... NOT


J-Breakz Date: Thursday, 14/Apr/11, 11:56 AM | Message # 22

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I am aware of this, but you're basically saying that a religious person is not able to set up a logical argument.

No, wtf are you talking about? no Im not basically saying that. lol. I said I wouldn't want to let a religious person tell me how to live my life. If he's a religious person and a socialist then there is a lot of logic he either doesn't get or chooses to ignore. And if that's the case then I'm not taking him or what he says too seriously.

A religious person concerned with politics is like a bum that likes to yell at his sandwiches because he says doing that makes it taste 100 times better.... your right, it has nothing to do with his political beliefs, but im not gonna be taking that too seriously either.

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Exactly. And his religious beliefs are irrelevant, unless he himself makes them a part of what he's talking about in politics somehow.

Its relevant to what I'm saying.

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Ok so all socialists and religious folks are idiots, you my man are GREAT...... NOT

If you dedicate most or your entire life to socialism and/or religion then yeah. That's enough for me to consider you an idiot. You can disagree with what I'm saying but your still gonna live a very unrewarding life.


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Menace Date: Thursday, 14/Apr/11, 12:17 PM | Message # 23

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If you dedicate most or your entire life to socialism and/or religion then yeah. That's enough for me to consider you an idiot. You can disagree with what I'm saying but your still gonna live a very unrewarding life.

Its just utter prejudice, Ok so if you live your life as a right wing libertarian then you live the most fullest life ever. You just fail, you seem to know everyones life, you know the life of libertarians and socialists alike and how fulfilling they are. You know also the life of homosexuals, Blacks etc. You know everything based on stereotypes and assumptions ;) YOUR GREAT !!!!


J-Breakz Date: Thursday, 14/Apr/11, 12:32 PM | Message # 24

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Its just utter prejudice, Ok so if you live your life as a right wing libertarian then you live the most fullest life ever.
You're the one making the assumption that I'm saying that. Pretty much you're doing what you're accusing me of doing, lol. I think focusing most or all of your time advocating a right wing libertarian system (I'm not even a right wing libertarian) is pretty unrewarding too. But at least they can use values within the libertarian philosophy that make sense and can be applied to their lives.

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You just fail, you seem to know everyones life, you know the life of libertarians and socialists alike and how fulfilling they are.

I got no clue where your getting this. When did I ever say I know everyone's life? I think your just getting ur panties all in a bunch because I called your hero an idiot.

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You know also the life of homosexuals, Blacks etc.

I know the life of homosexuals and blacks? Is cornel west supposed to be a gay black man or something? Cuz if he is then thats pretty funny lol


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Menace Date: Thursday, 14/Apr/11, 12:51 PM | Message # 25

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But at least they can use values within the libertarian philosophy that make sense and can be applied to their lives.

Yeah, that's what religious folks tell me too, they take the positive aspects of religion and apply them to their life, man they are bunch of idiots no?

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I got no clue where your getting this. When did I ever say I know everyone's life? I think your just getting ur panties all in a bunch because I called your hero an idiot.

You seem to know who's what over ones religious inclination and political affiliations ;) Elitism reeks of you.


J-Breakz Date: Thursday, 14/Apr/11, 1:03 PM | Message # 26

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Yeah, that's what religious folks tell me too, they take the positive aspects of religion and apply them to their life, man they are bunch of idiots no?

all that im implying is that religion requires you to ignore logic. I don't care what positive aspects they can get from religion. You still need to have faith over logic. Right wing libertarians use logic n nothing but logic. Don't compare two completely different things. I never said that religious people are idiots. I said Cornel West is an idiot.

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You seem to know who's what over ones religious inclination and political affiliations

How religious a person is or how dedicated they are to a certain political affiliation can tell a lot about a person.

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Elitism reeks of you.

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Menace Date: Thursday, 14/Apr/11, 1:05 PM | Message # 27

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all that im implying is that religion requires you to ignore logic. I don't care what positive aspects they can get from religion. You still need to have faith over logic. I never said that religious people are idiots. I said Cornel West is an idiot.

Because he's a socialist and religious, you claimed in your first comments, so of course you said religious people are idiots, stop trying to rationalize your prejudice its nothing rational about it ;)


J-Breakz Date: Thursday, 14/Apr/11, 1:15 PM | Message # 28

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Because he's a socialist and religious, you claimed in your first comments, so of course you said religious people are idiots, stop trying to rationalize your prejudice its nothing rational about it ;)

lol i said cornel west is an idiot. When asked why I said because he"s a religious socialist that spends the majority of his time on stuff that's completely unproductive.

It's not because he's just religious. I agree with a lot of what Ron Paul says, and he's religious.

Not just because he's a socialist. There's plenty of ppl that just have a misunderstanding of economics and how society works, but don't bother doing too much research on it because they are busy with other things.

Cornel West is an idiot because he is a dedicated religious socialist that goes on TV to debate about useless shit.


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Greeny Date: Thursday, 14/Apr/11, 8:33 PM | Message # 29

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Its relevant to what I'm saying.

Not to his debate though. Isn't it natural to assume you're talking about the topic, or shouldn't people read between the lines ever?

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And if that's the case then I'm not taking him or what he says too seriously.

Jeez... I can't talk to you.


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eboyd Date: Friday, 15/Apr/11, 1:42 AM | Message # 30

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so....

Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Mahatma Gandhi, Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn, George Orwell, Friedrich Neitzsche, Albert Camus, Helen Keller, Bertrand Russell, William Godwin, etc.

...are all idiots. now that we have that settled...

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