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Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich Scandal
SoulRas Date: Wednesday, 10/Dec/08, 10:43 AM | Message # 1

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President-elect Barack Obama hasn't even stepped into office and already a scandal — not of his own making — is threatening to dog him.

Obama isn't accused of anything. But the fact that Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, a fellow Democrat, has been charged with trying to sell Obama's now-vacant Senate post gives political opponents an opening to criticize him. A slew of questions remain. The investigation is still under way. And the ultimate impact on Obama is far from certain.

He pointedly distanced himself from the case Tuesday, saying, "I had no contact with the governor or his office, and so I was not aware of what was happening" concerning any possible dealing about Blagojevich's appointment of a successor.

In an interview published in the Chicago Tribune and the Los Angeles Times on Wednesday, Obama reiterated that point, saying: "I have not discussed the Senate seat with the governor at any time."

But Obama wouldn't answer a question on whether he was aware of any conversations between the governor and his top aides, including incoming White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel. "It's an ongoing investigation," Obama said. "I think it would be inappropriate for me to ... remark on the situation beyond the facts that I know."

In Chicago on Tuesday, U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald said prosecutors were making no allegations that Obama was aware of any scheming. And Blagojevich himself, in taped conversations cited by prosecutors, suggested that Obama wouldn't be helpful to him. Even if the governor was to appoint a candidate favored by the Obama team, Blagojevich said, "they're not willing to give me anything except appreciation."

Republicans pounced nonetheless.

"The serious nature of the crimes listed by federal prosecutors raises questions about the interaction with Gov. Blagojevich, President-elect Obama and other high ranking officials who will be working for the future president," said Rep. Eric Cantor of Virginia, the new GOP House whip.

Added Robert M. "Mike" Duncan, chairman of the Republican National Committee, "President-elect Barack Obama's comments on the matter are insufficient at best."

Robert Gibbs, an Obama spokesman, said, "We did not know about this recent part of the investigation until today."

The two Illinois politicians have never been close and have largely operated in different Democratic Party camps in the state. Blagojevich's disdain for Obama was clear in court documents; he is quoted as calling the president-elect a vulgar term in one phone conversation recorded by the FBI.

Despite all that, at the very least, the episode amounts to a distraction for Obama just six weeks before he's sworn into office while he works to set up his new administration and deal with a national economic crisis. It also raises the specter of notorious Chicago politics, an image Obama has tried to distance himself from during his career.

In court documents, FBI Special Agent Daniel Cain detailed several phone calls between Blagojevich and his aides that were intercepted on court-authorized wiretaps over the past month. Blagojevich is accused of conspiring to sell or trade the vacant Senate seat for personal benefits for himself and his wife, Patti. Among his alleged desires: a Cabinet post, placement at a private foundation in a significant position, campaign contributions or an ambassadorship.

There were signs the continuing investigation could still involve Obama.

It appears that Obama friend Valerie Jarrett, an incoming senior White House adviser, is the person referred to repeatedly in court documents as "Candidate 1." That individual is described as a woman who is "an adviser to the president-elect" and as the person Obama wanted appointed to the Senate seat. Court papers say that Candidate 1 eventually removed herself from consideration for the Senate seat.

Blagojevich talked at length about Candidate 1 in a Nov. 11 phone conversation with an aide.

One day later, Jarrett, a Chicago businesswoman who is one of three co-chairmen of Obama's transition team and was a high-level adviser to his presidential campaign, made it known that she was not interested in the seat. On Nov. 15, Obama announced that Jarrett would be a senior White House adviser and assistant for intergovernmental relations.

Obama's circle of major Illinois political allies and supporters is largely separate from Blagojevich's, with two major exceptions. Both Obama and Blagojevich got extensive money and support from Chicago businessman Antoin "Tony" Rezko, who is awaiting sentencing after being convicted in June on charges of using clout with Blagojevich's administration to help launch a $7 million kickback scheme. And Obama is close to Illinois Senate President Emil Jones, who has been the governor's staunchest legislative ally.

At least one top aide to Obama, Michael Strautmanis, previously worked for Blagojevich. Obama has appointed Strautmanis to serve in a top post in the White House. The Chicago native was legislative director and counsel to Blagojevich when the governor was a member of Congress and then helped Blagojevich win the governorship in 2002. There is no indication that Strautmanis is involved in the case.

More details on the case could be forthcoming.

Court documents say they don't include all calls dealing with the governor's efforts regarding the Senate appointment. And many people in the documents are referred to by aliases; there's little doubt their identities will eventually surface.


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Menace Date: Wednesday, 10/Dec/08, 11:41 AM | Message # 2

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this wont hurt Obama at all the thing is this dude committed a crime and thats all

eboyd_ Date: Wednesday, 10/Dec/08, 11:51 AM | Message # 3

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Thanks for this. I was watching this on the news but it didn't get this detailed on the situation. This really helped me understand the situation better.
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this wont hurt Obama at all the thing is this dude committed a crime and thats all

Yes Menace, but you have to remember, because the world has this pre-fab crap party system you will always have two parties that attack each other on any sort of fuel they can find and use against them. I mean at least monarchy is, for the most part, dead and the U.S. Is only a 2 party system whereas other countries have six or seven, only breeding more angst and subsequent violence, but the party system will make Obama have to live with this upon entering office and he will probably deal with it for about a year. It's sad but true.

SoulRas Date: Wednesday, 10/Dec/08, 12:09 PM | Message # 5

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It was said, "All state governments are corrupt.. Illinois is just one of the few bad at covering it up"

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Menace Date: Wednesday, 10/Dec/08, 12:21 PM | Message # 6

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Yes Menace, but you have to remember, because the world has this pre-fab crap party system you will always have two parties that attack each other on any sort of fuel they can find and use against them. I mean at least monarchy is, for the most part, dead and the U.S. Is only a 2 party system whereas other countries have six or seven, only breeding more angst and subsequent violence, but the party system will make Obama have to live with this upon entering office and he will probably deal with it for about a year. It's sad but true.

who cares ?? i mean this is the bourgeois way what more can u want from an oligarchy ? u know that every representative system spends more then half of their time fighting internal problems rather then working on the country and leading? our representatives are rather a body of riches then people why u think Rome fell?? why u think the people loved Caesar ?? yes Caesar was a cruel man but the will of the people is stronger then a army a dictatorship doesn't mean only the dictatorship of one it can be the dictatorship of the few too and i agree of the 2 party systems is very bad even in a capitalist "democracy" even here after 20 years after the fall of communism we got 3 parties in power Germany got 4 parties in power and here in Europe we know whats left and whats right in america is blurred i mean what people call left wing there is here centrist or right wing we got parties in power of all kind all spectrums america needs to adopt this kind of model fast


SoulRas Date: Wednesday, 10/Dec/08, 12:29 PM | Message # 7

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america needs to adopt this kind of model fast

It'll only get worse over here before it gets better. The layoffs in the states are reaching outstanding numbers.


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Menace Date: Wednesday, 10/Dec/08, 12:39 PM | Message # 8

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l only get worse over here before it gets better. The layoffs in the states are reaching outstanding numbers.

well its gettin better for the state itself as a medium the merger of state and corporate power is obvious in 20 years the entity of america will be dissolved in a militaristic fascistic society the bail outs are a form of socialism the close relation between corporate power and state are obvious a populist form so populism plus socialism equals National Socialism also known as Nazism and Nazism also known as a form of Fascism so bing bang bing bang


SoulRas Date: Wednesday, 10/Dec/08, 12:42 PM | Message # 9

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National Socialism also known as Nazism and Nazism also known as a form of Fascism so bing bang bing bang

Yeah :\


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eboyd_ Date: Wednesday, 10/Dec/08, 12:43 PM | Message # 10

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You think America needs to adopt a government from Romania? Correct me if I'm wrong, but even though the U.S. System is fucked, I was of the impression that it was still the best in the entire world.
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You think America needs to adopt a government from Romania? Correct me if I'm wrong, but even though the U.S. System is fucked, I was of the impression that it was still the best in the entire world.

Romania?? no i mean Europe cause is the oldest bastion of freedom on earth for me it aint cause for me freedom means something else but in a average scale it is Europe and when i mean Europe i mean west Europe cause Europe is a thousand times more democratic then america thats not doubt the thing that made america big is the wealth that was built on not the system cause america till the 60's preached something and did something else its 2008 now the wealth is gone so it fights for bread above the illusion that america haves a high developed system and social order is truly a illusion even on the standards of today your system is not diverse at all is quite primitive i should say the problem is the propaganda that covers everything the lies i mean even the 60's counter culture movements are strictly american but one of the sources of it was the UK and France its insane sometimes i am not defending a capitalist democratic system but its obvious here a multi party system thats really multi party and its in power a clear ideologies almost all ideologies in power is cool one day if i get out of this dump i will move some where in Italy or France cause i want my life easy when i am old lol and this debate is futile cause if the base of it is capitalism then the gap between classes is open so u have a huge force of resistance so its whatever


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