well that adam and eve bullshit and other religions such as Islam, and Chritianity is the reason.. IMO... why places such as Europe and the Middle East moved on from some agricultural shit hole to a more developed society.. around the continet. and look at other places in hisory where they worshiped something, the egyptians, greeks, aztecs, all had gods etc.. and then look at other countries that are obviosu i need not name, with no religion until they were either turned christian or muslim.. and look at them now.. i rest my case.

Cells are still a theory

Germs are still a theory

Light is still a theory

Sound is still a theory

The fact the evolution is "still a theory" means nothing. The amount of evidence that supports the theory is what matters.

Your just skipping around the question..

BTW, keep in mind that nothing can be 100% proven. Besides you can't put a % on proof anyway.

i know someone who is just as, if not more religious than you who isn't dumb enough to actually believe that God is outside the realm of capabilities of science. in fact, he would call you an idiot for believing that. and his father was a priest and both of them are fundamentalists. he is the only religious person i have been able to argue with on a truly intellectual level. he believes the fundamentals of evolution and things like the big bang are compatible with Christianity as well. he's right. neither disprove God. of course there is very little in this universe that is actually provable. i'd actually say that there is only one provable thing in this universe and that is the cogito and even that has an element which i wish to challenge some day (obviously only on the basis of theory).

that is a terrible argument! America is the most fundamentally Christian country in the world and there is a much higher crime rate here, more strange fetishes than anywhere else, and, of course, Hollywood (need i say more?). countries like Japan, for example, where the percentage of atheists is almost twice that of America and the population is damn high as well, there is a significantly lower crime rate, better education, better health care, a larger middle class, etc. there are plenty of similar examples. England, for example, is almost half atheist and they are in a similar situation.

EXACTLY! evolution is not inherent proof against religion people! wake up!

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and there wasnt many societys before the bible that were any good, but the ones that did make it big had religion and looked to the skys. peace

people believe a lot of things.

[quote=I_Guy]Sodr I cannot consider that video even the slightest because they are passages straight from the bible. Thes same bible that I say is bullshit. It tries to elaborate on nonbelievers. But this shit was written long before the time of Science, and complex scientific understandings. So to say this scripture applies to modern intellectual doubters is absurd. [/quote]
i am urging you to watch this video, like i said SKIP the part where he reads the Bible, this man and i quote "studied philosophy, theology, the humanities and religious education in various institutes and universities"

SKIP TO 5:27
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI3NdYyJofI[/video]
honestly it annoys me that i watch your 10 minute video and you're ignoring my less-than5 minute video

[quote=I_Guy]Gravity is still a theory

Cells are still a theory

Germs are still a theory

Light is still a theory

Sound is still a theory

The fact the evolution is "still a theory" means nothing. The amount of evidence that supports the theory is what matters. [/quote]
we can observe gravity, we can SEE cells, we can SEE germs, we can SEE light, we can hear sound

no one has lived long enough to observe evolution..oh and im not in the mood for a debate on evolution

tell me....one person who's father was a priest [[(btw catholic priests arent allowed to marry, unless he's protestant, and in that case, his beliefs dont reflect the true beliefs of Christianity)]] just because this person believes science is compatible with Christianity [[(also show me one person ALIVE that says science and religion cannot reconcile)]]...for all these reasons, we're supposed to believe that God is confined within the laws of nature? i dont think so

any God that doesn't transcend this world is not a God, end of story, even if you are an atheist....its only common sense, this isnt some teaching or doctrine

basically what id like is just a response from i-guy (or anyone else) for this video STARTING from 5:27 (since it didnt embed when i posted under watcher:

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