Anyways, many of these "unexplained phenomena", as abanks so perfectly worded it, are being explained daily. Rigorous testing is being done on Tibetan monks and others thought to have "super powers", "healing powers", etc., by many scientists and believe it or not, conclusions as to how they are doing what they do are, in fact, being reached. "Unexplained phenomena" simply means scientists haven't studied them closely enough to come to any solid conclusions YET ("yet" being the key word in the last sentence).

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"True poetry can communicate before it is understood"

-T.S. Eliot

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Not if it's been documented and proven to have occured. A myth is just a story that has no basis of natural explanation. There are many myths that I enjoy reading about and I strongly believe that some myths may hold some truth to them, but I'm not trying to throw the book at myths altogether. All I am saying is that...

...I don't live my life according to them. My life isn't ruled by myths. That's the point.

So you feel that everything can be proven? Scientists have been studying yawning for decades and still do not know for sure how or why any species does it yet most do it. Getting off topic though.

Strike anywhere it matches, in hip hop, the God of War, you better practice
Like the apache indian on the ridge, you fought for a hundred years with axes
And hatchets, bionic six, lyrical acrobatics, it's tragic
You hide away like a kid behind the cactus
I fell in love, with a woman who dance at night with black magic
When a crocodile attacks, it's almost never predictable
My lyrics, are the spirts of mythical serial killers turned physical
What do you think, I came here to kiss you?
My long feathered tassle tomahawk, throw 'em, slit splits the moon
Hangs your boomerangs back to Earth, it rips through, your crew
Then you, like tissue, then some one holding the issue
I load my Skeletor revolver pistol
A man, he works all day, and at night, he hung his skin
Peace, why don't you sit down, friend
In the forest hunted by a bear alone, I climb up a tree
And fall down upon him, with a long thick branch and grim
My pocket knife tied to the end... -Holocaust

scientists had been studying the origin of species since the beginning of time and it wasn't until the 1850's that Darwin was able to realize evolution (a change in a species over time) and that is now known as a scientific FACT (theory that has been tested and proven beyond a preponderance of evidence [and, for extra brownie points, this specific fact can be observed on a more minute scale as well]). what i'm saying is that there are plenty of things that we had once thought that science would never explain that have now been explained: planetary orbits, how gravity works on a grand scale, the positioning of planets in the sky, how life came from non-life, how the universe came to be in it's current state, etc. every single one of these phenomena now have testable theories behind them that are considered to be quite reliable. what people often fail to realize is that science isn't just some discipline that someone came up with. it is the practice of coming up with explanations for the unexplained. the rational minded person believes that everything can be explained. maybe not now or even in the near future, but there is nothing that has the ability to escape explanation. thinking otherwise is simply irrational.

alcatraz was talking about healing powers of Jesus healing demons and raising people from the dead which he said: "I'm not doubting that a man by his name who had healing powers lived at one point" not "unexplained phenomena"

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain

no disrespect, but you're still not comprehending what i'm saying. you're putting science in a box. science isn't just one method of explanation. any explanation that is given for something that did not previously have an explanation that has a factual or strongly tested theoretical basis is, by definition, scientific.

that's the thing. that is still a scientific discovery. in fact, believe it or not, a large portion of some of the greatest scientific discoveries have happened in exactly that manner.

i absolutely agree. that doesn't make them unexplainABLE, nor does it make us correct or logically sound to infer that since we can't/have yet to explain it, it must be magic/God/pixies/etc. this is a fallacy similar to the "God-of-the-gaps" fallacy and falls under arguments from ignorance and also slippery slope.

"I'm like the Atheist spokesman
That why I come under fire and pressure attacks like Rex Grossman
Yea this game is intense
I been sayin it since agnostics people been playin the fence
They keep sayin its the same in a sense
That evolution requires faith, that universe just came to exist
First of all, microevolution been proven
In the same way that sound waves let you listen to music
And macroevolution is the system of change
At or above the level of the species inflicted with change
That's microevolution on a grand scale we can't even word
because our life span's too short to observe
"But carbon dating is flawed"
"Its half life is 5730 years, and that supports our cause"
Now that'd be great if we used it to date
But since we don't then I'm a question that argument's weight
We use potassium argon to date to date the globe
Not carbon 12 or carbon 14 not none of those
So before you attack Grey go get ya facts straight
Because in the facts race, your God comes into last place"

-Greydon Square

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if those things really occurred (which i doubt) then they are unexplained phenomena.

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no, it's the other way around "miracle" (put in quotations because the idea of them being explained, even at a future date, negates their classification as a miracle. there is no such thing as a "miracle") = unexplained phenomena (not unexpainABLE)

it may be.... if it actually happened. or it may just be that the person wasn't actually dead and that the person who said the words and the person who arose were in collusion to trick people into believing he had just been arisen.

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"True poetry can communicate before it is understood"

-T.S. Eliot

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I don't want to go on a long rant on this. I love music too much to want to get side tracked in this thread because I do tend to think a lot about music and some of its lyrics, I plan on posting more in here so if you really want to continue this please split the threads.