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Question To Everyone Who Has A Boss
Do you own yourself or are you yourself?
1. 1. I Am Myself [ 7 ] [70.00%]
2. 2. I Own Myself [ 3 ] [30.00%]
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J-Breakz Date: Saturday, 09/Oct/10, 1:48 PM | Message # 16

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....yeah ima wage slave because i decided to stop selling drugs and finally got a 9 to 5. Now I have been horribly and wrongfully making atleast 450 bucks a week (if i dont try hard) and taking women to fancy ass dinners and get blunted every nite after work. Jesus Christ, just grow up and start being a man. Only a bitch worries about being someones bitch because they don't know how to look out for themselves in the real world. In the real world, NOBODY has your back, and the only person you can truly help is yourself. A whole society about trust and loyalty is bullshit because there is no such thing as trust or loyalty. Just quit being a pussy and start realizing that this is how the world works and how its always going to work.

Oh btw, I work at a corporation and still get to dress however i want, i still swear like a sailor, and get to party any night i want. I just impressed bosses by making sure that i followed through with anything i said i was going to do. Try it!


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Treach Date: Saturday, 09/Oct/10, 2:26 PM | Message # 17

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^ thats whats up

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eboyd Date: Monday, 11/Oct/10, 4:33 PM | Message # 18

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....yeah ima wage slave because i decided to stop selling drugs and finally got a 9 to 5.

which would be a mandatory 9 to 9, possibly longer, if it wasn't for a massive peaceful socialist protest at Haymarket Square in which police and union busters instigated violence, leading to multiple deaths and the wrongful convictions and executions of the organizers of the protest.

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Now I have been horribly and wrongfully making atleast 450 bucks a week

a wage you surely would not be making had unions not actually been useful in the past, forcing the wages of workers upward since the late 1800's and giving workers' organizations a very minute taste of equality.

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Jesus Christ, just grow up and start being a man. Only a bitch worries about being someones bitch because they don't know how to look out for themselves in the real world.

who the fuck do you think you're talking to? i'm not some rebel teenager sitting in the back of his mom's suburban bitching about inequality while i sit back idly and experience life vicariously through other people. i will be successful, but there are people who can't, not because they don't try, but because there are x number of jobs (dictated by how much CEOs can pay their workers while still maintaining their ridiculously large salaries), provided that almost everything is privatized (and the only other option in the US is government jobs and those are no different), not to mention that a large amount of the jobs that do exist do not pay nearly enough to support a family, while there is a much larger population.

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In the real world, NOBODY has your back, and the only person you can truly help is yourself.

all hail capitalism and the belief that wealth and power inequalities are inevitable and efficient!

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A whole society about trust and loyalty is bullshit because there is no such thing as trust or loyalty. Just quit being a pussy and start realizing that this is how the world works and how its always going to work.

you know, back during the reign of feudal monarchy similar excuses were made: "well, the king has to be there because society cannot run efficiently without a monarch making all the rules. people cannot make their own decisions democratically, that's absurd!" what you are saying is no different. and btw, how are we defining trust and loyalty??? i'm not at all supporting a society based solely on trust and loyalty. i support a socialist market economy based on equal working circumstances, the redefining of property laws to allow for those who perform labor a first and immediate claim over than which they labor on, voluntary labor, free association, a brand new theory of value that i call the Direct Remuneration Theory (DRT) which is basically a reverse LTV, etc. i support many of the same things that you do, however, i disagree fundamentally in that i feel it is wrong for people to be allowed to lay claim to property that they do not personally use. if someone else, for example, labors in a factory i claim to own, it isn't right that i should be allowed to lay claim to what they labored to create, repair, or w/e, only to later remunerate them in part for the labor they performed. and before you make this idiotic claim, no, that person cannot seek self-employment. sure, a few can, and more power to them, but most self-employed workers have to compete with corporations who purchase resources in bulk at a much cheaper price and so they can undercut smaller businesses, making it much more difficult to go that route and so most people work for other people and end up being exploited. and no, nobody actually wants to work for a boss:

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Oh btw, I work at a corporation and still get to dress however i want, i still swear like a sailor, and get to party any night i want. I just impressed bosses by making sure that i followed through with anything i said i was going to do. Try it!

congratulations. you got lucky with a cool boss. those can be hard to come by. he still takes the majority of the money that you labored to get for him though and so yes, you are a wage slave, and if you have no problem with that, then that's ok with you. i'm still going to continue to fight to make it so that you have a better opportunity for rights and responsibilities on the job. of course i would never force them on you because that is completely against my philosophy. i will probably have to succumb to wage slavery at least for a short time soon myself, and i'm ok with that because i know that, unfortunately, that's how this society operates.

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^ thats whats up

no, it's not. it isn't because the United States is one of the only developed country in the world where cooperatives -- as in directly democratically run and owned businesses -- don't employ a majority of the people in the country. around the world, 800 million workers own and run their own businesses democratically with their fellow worker-owners. and most countries do not have nearly the wealth gaps between CEOs and regular workers that the US does. J-Breakz supports a system that would effectively broaden the wealth gap beyond what it currently is in the US. a system in which you would have to pay a toll to use every road, every restroom, every park, every drinking fountain, etc. his ideology is idiotic and he is an asshole when he presents his arguments. don't buy into his bullshit.


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J-Breakz Date: Monday, 11/Oct/10, 11:55 PM | Message # 19

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no, im not gonna debate a whole fuckin essay. i already explained to you how ur shit has a government. common force, blah blah blah. yeah it could work thereotically, but it requires every single person's faith. Not everybody has faith in the same things. even ur friends che and fidel castro had different ideas. everybody is going to have different mentalities by nature blah blah blah so who cares? just get money and fuck bitches while minding ur own shit. thats how a market without govn't control works. if you want success and happiness in this world u gotta look at the perspectives of other ppl (bosses, customers, etc.). thats with every single thing, even music or relationships or any other shit.

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Adam Date: Tuesday, 12/Oct/10, 8:34 AM | Message # 20

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You just simplified the entire meaning of life into two things. Money and fucking bitches! I admire you ^_^




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Treach Date: Tuesday, 12/Oct/10, 8:49 AM | Message # 21

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You just simplified the entire meaning of life into two things. Money and fucking bitches! I admire you

lmao!


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J-Breakz Date: Sunday, 17/Oct/10, 1:47 PM | Message # 22

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fucking bitches

lol the meanin of life is just that, rlly


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eboyd Date: Monday, 18/Oct/10, 9:05 PM | Message # 23

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no, im not gonna debate a whole fuckin essay. i already explained to you how ur shit has a government. common force, blah blah blah. yeah it could work thereotically, but it requires every single person's faith. Not everybody has faith in the same things. even ur friends che and fidel castro had different ideas. everybody is going to have different mentalities by nature blah blah blah so who cares? just get money and fuck bitches while minding ur own shit. thats how a market without govn't control works. if you want success and happiness in this world u gotta look at the perspectives of other ppl (bosses, customers, etc.). thats with every single thing, even music or relationships or any other shit.

lol @ "[my] friends Che and Fidel".

by the extremely broad definition you have of government in which all forms of social organization, including the family dynamic, are government, yes, my vision involves government -- as does yours. besides, it is not government that anarchists (real ones, not "anarcho"-capitalists, AKA neo-fascists or "anarcho"-statists just to point out the irony of the ideology, such as yourself) oppose, it is authority. the form of governance i propose, as in the method by which i feel society should be run, is non-authoritative, egalitarian, democratic, and efficient.


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abanks47 Date: Tuesday, 19/Oct/10, 1:40 AM | Message # 24

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you sound like a hippy

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J-Breakz Date: Tuesday, 19/Oct/10, 11:51 PM | Message # 25

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lol

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eboyd Date: Friday, 22/Oct/10, 5:52 PM | Message # 26

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Wow, that was really a worthwhile response /sarcasm

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NtG Date: Friday, 22/Oct/10, 6:53 PM | Message # 27

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This thread is getting me mad, the concepts in it are dumb, and J-Breaks is right.

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abanks47 Date: Friday, 22/Oct/10, 7:38 PM | Message # 28

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This thread is getting me mad, the concepts in it are dumb, and J-Breaks is right.

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A WELL DRESSED SKELETON SLOWLY CUTS YOUR THROAT.

"I Have No Fear Whatsoever of Anybody or Anything" -Malcolm X

“those who consider themselves the most adamant adherents of “real” hip-hop can also be the least knowledgeable.” –Adilifu Nama; an excert from his perception of Nas’s “Genesis”

EmSeeD Date: Friday, 22/Oct/10, 7:49 PM | Message # 29

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erik don't talk bad about our slave masters like that :D at least they stopped whipping us now


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eboyd Date: Saturday, 23/Oct/10, 3:33 AM | Message # 30

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Whatever man. You guys are fucking idiots. I guess engaging one's brain in philosophical questioning of the status quo is beyond simple minded fucks like you.

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