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Nas or Eminem
Who's the better emcee overall.
1. Nas [ 17 ] [68.00%]
2. Eminem [ 8 ] [32.00%]
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ThaScience Date: Saturday, 06/Mar/10, 10:29 PM | Message # 1

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Put a reason who you think is better.

IMO, Nas, because hes been the most consistent rapper of all time, doing it for 19 years and still the most lyrical in the game. Nobody else has ever done this in hip hop for so long and remained relevent on a global scale nas has done, and still be considered the best for so many, he has inspired rappers today like blu, jay electronica and lupe fiasco (firm fiasco) to name a few. eminem inspired a generation of wiggas

1. He has the best album of all time, Illmatic.

2. He has 4 classic albums, Illmatic, It Was Written, Stillmatic and Lost Tapes. Nobody else has this many classics. ATCQ has 3 (in a row) the rest has 2, 1 or 0. (2Pac has 0 but he's in my top 5, thats another story).

3. He has the best unreleased discography, ahead of 2Pac and Eminem which comes in a 2nd and 3rd IMO.

4. Each of his albums are very different..

- Illmatic = the streets, bitchaz, 40s, rollin oo-ops together, only jokin, u know what it is....

- It Was Written & The Firm - if u love films like goodfellas, casino then this is for you.

- I Am... Nastradamus - the double album that never was that was suppose to be the autobiography, with belly button window, papa was a playa, the curse, etc. I am... was a good album, Columbia wanted another album so he rushed out his worst album to date but better then 90% of albums today. Nobody slatin Ludacris fro his new album, cos hes Ludacris, Not Nas. Who we expect much better from cos he's the g.o.a.t.

- Stillmatic - came back to destory the mainstream faggot gay-z is, and gave us sooo many conscinece songs to manifest for years to come. Rewind was groundbreaking tellin a story backwards, 2nd childhood.. "shes in the streets yackety jackin like she was 12, honeys 27 argues fights, selfish in her own right for life, guess shes in her second childhhod" some real talk there. he had hood stories and shit to the world, like Rule, What goes around.. One Mic was the first song in hip hop history to use crescendo.

god's son - just lost his mum and he gave us a near classic album, every song was clasic, but mastermind and zone out meant it didnt get that C word. this album was more about his spiritual side, heaven, dance, and also continued the conscience side but more about history, lyrics to warrior song "The Nazarene of Bethlehem they had me wrapped in blankets..." and "British regime I can't cope my existence is hope for younger teens who lost in their world. Earlier this year I buried my queen in a gold casket..." very emotional album, and gave us the softer side of nas, and gave us some inside look into new york in 95 with stories of big, rae and jay in last real nigga alive.
- edit, i wanted to add that i can was a great single, i was about 13/14 or something at the time and everyone was singing this at school.. well the girls were. the guys were all talkin about that nas 3rd verse.. egypt. <still a verse being debated today with over 2-3 mil views on yt. :D

streets disciple - il wrap this up more.. this ws nas takin a complete musical change, and its like fine wine, this album ages well and if u listen to message to the feds, suicide bounce, thiefs theme, it sums up this album well. and thats a great album. one to take out twice a year, enjoy it, and put it back into the vaults. and let im marinate some more to get more, oh so sweet :D

hip hop is dead - the most relevent album of the decade, the most talked about album of the decade, the album that gave 85% of the ppl on this forum an insight into hip hop other then 50 cent and nelly. deny it all u want but i remember when classic video came out and rhhf was just startin up. this was the most relevent album to ur movement. and something that was against everything mainstream music was for,
"thats why the gangsta rhymers aint inspired, heinous crimes help record sales more then crative minds, and i dont wanna keep bringing up the greater times, but ima dreamer nastalgic with the state of mind" with the video being a backdrop to the if i ruled the world vid, 10 yrs on.
where are they now made 90s babies google kool g rap, and other grat emcees from the laste 80s early 90s era that u truthly never heard bfore this album. real talk.

untitled - the year of obama, again, the most relevent album. more so then the carter3, lax, ice cubes album. it was a great yr for underground hip hop.. but this album had it all. hero was a great commercial single, hate it or love it, it got 3 mil yt views and a generation of gucci mane and lil wayne fans an insight into slavery, black oppresion, names from the civil rights era, in form of rap song. queens get the money meant we all knew not to underestimate him "talkin that nas dont fell of with rhymin.. please god spit that uzi armin linin, that shorty do-op rollin oo-ops in the park" a ref to it aint.. and one love. he gave us that.. the commercial singles to sell an album origianlly gonna be called Ni***r. the rest was very much back to politics and what the album was about.

distant relatives - as we enter, strong will continue > anything else in the last 3 months.

5. makes the most creative songs ever = i gave u power - a gun, fetus - a baby, rewind - rappin backwards, sekou story - a girl, who killed it - on some who framed roger rabbit type ish lol, project roach - self explanatory. love listenin to a new nas ablums as im waitin to see if he raps from another perspective in someone elses shoes.. real shit. noone else does this like nas.

theres 5 good reasons. what u think?




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Adam Date: Saturday, 06/Mar/10, 10:30 PM | Message # 2

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AHAHA NaS of/c lol.

I think NaS is better only because he isn't actively giving out the mainstream bullshit. And even though his albums now aren't entirely dope they still manage to give a little disclose of what nas still has up his sleeve. And that is a will and an ability to still be the dopest mc of all time.





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Lord_Meth Date: Saturday, 06/Mar/10, 10:42 PM | Message # 3

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Woooooow ROFL!! How the hell did this thing continue into 3 different threads??
Lol Nas's Stans are crazy about him apparently lol


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ThaScience Date: Saturday, 06/Mar/10, 10:45 PM | Message # 4

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story of when i became fans of both, and what cds i payed for..

personally I became a eminem fan first with my sister got slim shady lp late 99. i went onto to get dre 2001 in early 2000, jan-feb. so i was a big eminem fan, then got mmlp in 00 as well edit - sister gave me infinite on a blank cd this time as wl, that was kl for the time of the big '00.
was a nas fan when i heard ether and got urself a gun was bein released as a single. made me buy stillmatic the week it dropped. got the eminem show when it dropped, good album. payed for lost tapes, fried gave me gods son, heard illmatic and it was written this time as well. payed for streets disciple wk it dropped, friend borowed encore, didnt like it. friend borowed hip hop is dead day after it dropped, completed the discogroaphy with hearin i am and nastradamus for first time dec 06, along with firm and qbs finst album, in early 07. payed for untitled day it dropped. dwnloaded relapse night it leaked, horible.




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ThaScience Date: Saturday, 06/Mar/10, 10:46 PM | Message # 5

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Woooooow ROFL!! How the hell did this thing continue into 3 different threads??
Lol Nas's Stans are crazy about him apparently lol

it was eminem was wack thread, it turned into a nas vs eminem thread. when it shouda been about the eminem and lil wayne video.

i needed to talk to eric directly about the rick ross nas song, that was all.

so we can finally get the nas v em shit all in here.


EmSeeD Date: Saturday, 06/Mar/10, 10:48 PM | Message # 6

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The Firm

was a pop sounding failure, even Dr. Dre admitted it was a flop, though the unreleased tracks Dre produced for that album are dope, it would have been a dope album if those unreleased songs were on the album.

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untitled

boring album.

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distant relatives - as we enter, strong will continue > anything else in the last 3 months.

agreed

i believe Eminem can at least match Nas on lyrics, Nas spits about more relevant topics than Eminem ever has though, but Eminem can be more lyrical than Nas. imo Eminem has 2 or arguably 3 classic albums, imo Nas has 2 classic albums, maybe arguably 3. Eminem is a pretty decent producer as well as emcee, Nas is only an emcee. but what lets Eminem down for me is that he makes too many immature songs


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ThaScience Date: Saturday, 06/Mar/10, 10:55 PM | Message # 7

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Nas is only an emcee

Where are they now - nas and salaam remi
hope og - nas and l.e.s.
the genesis - nas and faith newman
lifes a bitch - les, nas and olu dara
smokin - nas and co-prod precision
one mic - nas and chucky thompson
suicide bounce - nas and chucky thompson
u.b.r. - nas and salaam remi

^ he has at least a 50% stake into this songs.. ive read the inside booklet to all nas albums. ;)


EmSeeD Date: Sunday, 07/Mar/10, 0:43 AM | Message # 8

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well eminem has done a lot more in terms of production, plus he even produces for other artists

the genesis was barely even a beat it was just a short intro that used the beat from somewhere else,`i think it was from a movie


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eboyd Date: Sunday, 07/Mar/10, 1:51 AM | Message # 9

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IMO, Nas, because hes been the most consistent rapper of all time

That is one of the biggest lies I've ever heard lol. KRS, Masta Ace, Mos Def, Talib, Del, etc. are far more consistent than Nas. Nas is only barely more consistent than Eminem. Untitled, Nastradamus,, and I Am were wack as fuck; God's Son and Hip Hop Is Dead were decent; and only 3 of his albums -- Illmatic, It Was Written, and Stillmatic -- were dope, only 1, maybe 2 of which were classic. Eminem has 2, maybe 3 wack albums -- Encore, Relapse, and possibly Eminem Show (in my opinion it's wack. Also, Refill/Relapse 2 I consider a part of Relapse because it's basically just extra music from the same project), one dope, possibly classic album -- Infinite, and 2 definite classics -- SSLP and MMLP. They are comparably inconsistent.

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Nobody else has ever done this in hip hop for so long and remained relevent on a global scale nas has done, and still be considered the best for so many

So Jay-Z doesn't exist? And funny thing about Jay-Z is that, as I recall, he resurrected Nas' career lol. If it wasn't for Jay-Z, Nas would be no more relevant than KRS-One right now. If we're talking true longevity, no one has had more than KRS and Masta Ace out of those that are still relevant today and no one, including them, has been relevant for longer than LL Cool J, though he's wack as fuck now. Eminem has had a pretty long career that included quite continuous global relevance btw.

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he has inspired rappers today like blu, jay electronica and lupe fiasco (firm fiasco) to name a few.

Ok, and Eminem has inspired just as many in a shorter time.

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eminem inspired a generation of wiggas

Wow, that's a VERY ignorant statement! What "wiggas" has Eminem inspired? I guarantee both have inspired their fair share of wack artists as well btw. But seriously, Em has, in many ways, inspired some of the same people Nas has. Sure, Nas probably has more of an influence, but it's stupid to say he influences wiggas. Let me ask you, do you consider Em a "wigga"? Do you consider all white rappers "wiggas"? Because as a white emcee that doesn't consider himself a "wigga", that pisses me off quite a bit.

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He has the best album of all time, Illmatic.

It doesn't even make my top 15.

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He has 4 classic albums, Illmatic, It Was Written, Stillmatic and Lost Tapes. Nobody else has this many classics. ATCQ has 3 (in a row) the rest has 2, 1 or 0. (2Pac has 0 but he's in my top 5, thats another story).

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He has 4 classic albums, Illmatic, It Was Written, Stillmatic and Lost Tapes. Nobody else has this many classics. ATCQ has 3 (in a row) the rest has 2, 1 or 0. (2Pac has 0 but he's in my top 5, thats another story).

That may be your opinion but very few would agree. I count one classic with a possible second in It Was Written. Stillmatic was dope, but not a classic and Lost Tapes, first off, isn't an official album, and second, isn't a classic.

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He has the best unreleased discography, ahead of 2Pac and Eminem which comes in a 2nd and 3rd IMO.

Ok........ ?

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Each of his albums are very different..

Ok... ? MF DOOM's albums are more different from each other than Nas's, and so are Eminem's for that matter. That doesn't make a lick of difference though.

Overall, Nas and Em are VERY comparable, and neither are even in my top 15 emcees, but when it comes down to it, I think Em is a better writer and, when he tries (aka no faggot ass accent), has a better delivery than Nas, plus Nas has the worst beat choice of any legendary emcee ever. At least Em gets on good beats. Both can still spit sick lyrics, but I think Em has Nas slightly in the writing department (and obviously the freestyle department as well but that is inconsequential to me). Also, Nas tried the mafioso rap thing for a while early in his career which made up of some of his best work and it turned me away from Nas a bit and more on to Eminem who never went through that stage. It just doesn't appeal to me.

Overall, Eminem makes it on my list higher than Nas by a slight bit. They are highly comparable though and neither is in my top 15.


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Adam Date: Sunday, 07/Mar/10, 2:39 AM | Message # 10

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I can't believe em got more vote. This is so bad that now it is a poll of color. Racism.




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EmSeeD Date: Sunday, 07/Mar/10, 5:24 AM | Message # 11

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Relapse 2

that album hasn't come out yet, Refill was just the bonus edition of Relapse but Relapse 2 is coming out sometime this year.

as for lyrics i think Nas definitely has better topics than Eminem, i still haven't voted lol idk what to decide on, both of them are in my top 10


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ThaScience Date: Sunday, 07/Mar/10, 9:00 AM | Message # 12

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what I said eric, and what u said, is both completly NOT FACTS. there opinion. but what i said is more widely agreed upon, like illmatic being the best. him having 4 classics that i named. having the best unreleased disc.. ive heard to many ppl say these things its not even funny, online and in real life.. ive never heard anyone say this about eminem, just that hes one of the best to do it. but that dont mean its facts.

ThaScience Date: Sunday, 07/Mar/10, 9:01 AM | Message # 13

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I can't believe em got more vote. This is so bad that now it is a poll of color. Racism.

i hope not. that didnt even come into mind when i made this.


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Nas is way better! How could you say Untitled was wack? And why does everyone act like Infinite is a classic? all it is is Eminem rapping lazily on more hip-hop sounding beats (as opposed to his later work) You guys just think its dope because majority of people who like Eminem dont know about it. I dont know how you could even make this thread!

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ThaScience Date: Sunday, 07/Mar/10, 9:10 AM | Message # 15

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Nas is way better! How could you say Untitled was wack? And why does everyone act like Infinite is a classic? all it is is Eminem rapping lazily on more hip-hop sounding beats (as opposed to his later work) You guys just think its dope because majority of people who like Eminem dont know about it. I dont know how you could even make this thread!

I agree with everything you said, I played Untitled for One year non stop. I had iTunes from early 05 to feb 2010, computer recently crashed so I transfered to a new one all the music. In 5 years of playing music, Untitled was by far the most played album and songs as a collective ever. Purple had like 400+plays lol, then QGTM had like 250 and the rest had over 100. I didn't think that much of Infinite when I first heard it 10 years ago, I thought MMLP was alot better. And the poll...... well look at the damn votes.


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