what causes corruption and sin ?? many people talk about evil being part of human "nature" but humans are not predisposed to sin people are not inherently "evil" as so many presume if we look in our human history the civilizations that were in tandem whit nature were the most peaceful human nature is the product of our environment it's not something natural and we don't need a perfect society we just need to coexist whit nature so we can reach our full potential and to survive as an entire race if we think about it the survival of our entire race actually depends on this and the first steps to this is to abolish the concept of State and collectivize the means of production because in doing that we eliminate two ills capitalism's exploitative way and the States hierarchical dominant nature by the way Emseed did you saw one of my friends documentaries called The Evilness Of Power ??

Anyways, Menace, in order to sustain life we must have a purpose to do so or we are living like plants. Even a dog has a purpose to take an action of free will. A dog is hungry so he eats. What was his purpose for doing so? He WANTS ( <<< key word) to subside his hunger and to survive. That is a purpose. Taking a free will action with a clear reason to do so, whether it is in the natural order or not, is to take that action with purpose. Therefore, existence, on a small scale, has a purpose when speaking only of objects that have the special ability of free will.

my new theme song



erikboyd60@hotmail.com

"True poetry can communicate before it is understood"

-T.S. Eliot

battle record:

7-0-0

and yeah most of us need a purpose to live, even if its just a small purpose, i don't mean like some kind of divine purpose or anything.

yes he's making another one he almost finished i will post it when it's done it's about Thomas Ferguson's book called Golden Rule: The Investment Theory of Party Competition and the Logic of Money-Driven Politics

that's not a purpose it's part of the natural order in the animal kingdom everything sustains itself whit out informal synthetic purposes it's their animal instinct to survive is not a purpose they act on their natural impulses they are not conscious beings to understand why they eat they eat because that's in their natural impulse to eat to sleep and such we humans are the only ones that understand why we do that they don't people confuse purpose whit natural machinery i am not saying we as individual conscious beings don't create purposes I'm saying purpose is a synthetic creation

"Individuals are certainly capable of evil . . . But individuals are capable of all sorts of things. Human nature has lots of ways of realizing itself, humans have lots of capacities and options. Which ones reveal themselves depends to a large extent on the institutional structures. If we had institutions which permitted pathological killers free rein, they'd be running the place. The only way to survive would be to let those elements of your nature manifest themselves.

"If we have institutions which make greed the sole property of human beings and encourage pure greed at the expense of other human emotions and commitments, we're going to have a society based on greed, with all that follows. A different society might be organized in such a way that human feelings and emotions of other sorts, say, solidarity, support, sympathy become dominant. Then you'll have different aspects of human nature and personality revealing themselves." - quote from professor Noam Chomsky

^^^ words straight from the dictionary. I am not making this shit up. If that isn't enough, check #2:

Even if you are a dog and you do not get the concept of the term "goal" or even have an idea of what a goal is, your stomach grumbles and you see something that looks edible so you eat it. This means that, whether conscious or unconscious, you had a goal to sate your urge of hunger and you did so by eating. That goal, AS STATED IN THE VERY DEFINITION, is also a PURPOSE.

my new theme song



erikboyd60@hotmail.com

"True poetry can communicate before it is understood"

-T.S. Eliot

battle record:

7-0-0

Answer: we exist and for us to exist in the state that we do we need purpose, therefore, yes, there is a such thing as purpose for existence.

It is quite simple really. If 8 were to have elaborated and said "is there a such thing as purpose for all of existence?" this would be a totally different discussion and I would have automatically agreed with you.

my new theme song



erikboyd60@hotmail.com

"True poetry can communicate before it is understood"

-T.S. Eliot

battle record:

7-0-0