LOL in fact I'm a big fan of Nietzsche and that's where my tradition that of libertarian socialist or anarchist tradition always tried to reach to that is one of our ultimate goals oh and I'm currently reading Beyond Good And Evil by Nietzsche

I would offer that we are a byproduct of our universes evolution that has allowed it, or at least part of it, to examine itself.

Wether there is purpose to that and to what ends remains unclear but possible.

"The unexamined life is not worth living."

-Socrates

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"True poetry can communicate before it is understood"

-T.S. Eliot

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"Fuck yo couch!"

-R.James

Let's just say it worked and the person was successful. Sure that person may be making meaning for the self only. But what about the workers who make the pens or and work in the warehouses and assemble lines? What about their meaning? Can you really say doing the same bullshit everyday is meaningful? That's how capitalism reduces us to meaninglessness. It turns the world into an assembly line.

Ever heard of the Hawthorne Experiments??? They were among the first to be given hope by RUR. Social scientists motivated by corporate industry tried see how far workers could be pushed into roboticism.

Ever hear of the "Efficiency Movement?" Ever hear of "Scientific Management?" Ever hear of Henry Gantt? Ever hear of the "time and motion studies?" Ever head of Frederick Winslow Taylor??? Or Taylorism??? Also motivated by corporate industry, Taylor tried to maximize the workers output and efficiency by eliminating obstacles and reduced the work load to one simple task for each worker. The workers were not to know anything about what they were doing or what they were making, -they were simply paid to WORK. Is that not roboticism? He created worker automation, many companies followed Taylorism and it was extremely successful, until the depression hit and worker strikes forced compromise. Charlie Chaplin parodied Taylorism in his film Modern Times. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B3HGY_zLKk
Henry Gantt improved upon Taylorism. These were the giants back then.

You can clearly see that ever since the beginning the whole idea has been to turn the worker into a ROBOT. History shows it man, ever so clearly. Yet you try to deny it when I claim it?

See people with your mentality are all the same. You have this glorious image of capitalism in your mind. You only think about the benefits of capitalism from back in its heyday, and you erroneously overlook the difference between what it once was, and what it has become.

The 19th century was the "rugged individualism" era of capitalism. It was capitalism at it's best (aside from the unavoidable corruption). The first half of the 20th century was a transitional faze and all was still pretty good. The second half of the 20th century comes along and all goes to shit. This becomes the era of corporatism, and it is COMPLETELY different than the fantasy you have attached to. You're simply naive. Wake up.

But all in all I'm not for a monetary system to begin with. Capitalism is all about money so I attack it the most and first.

How are you so blind? You realize capitalism is a forever expanding enterprise and at some point it will reach a limit, rather it is population limit, environment limit, or whatever. That is why it is ridiculous to support capitalism, it's a dead end economy. It can't go on forever. So instead of all this fucking waste and excess, we should be advocating an economy that focuses on sustaining and preservation. It's completely absurd that people fully support capitalism. You need to look a little more into psychology, sociology, and philosophy to get a better grip on things and see the patterns. Otherwise you will remain a self-indulgent naive.

Have you ever studied my viewpoint before attacking it? You make all these claims yet you don't provide evidence to back it up. If you're talking about the environment then here's a link that can educate you on my view points:

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/libertarian/42497

Capitalism was not designed by intellectual people with a plan in mind. Their was nobody planning out capitalism with the health of the planet in mind, or society, or animals, or education. NO ONE blueprinted this shit. No one took a mind full of wholistic understandings and planned this shit out. Capitalism was born out of power, greed and desperation to stay alive. It is a brute economy, as brutal as it gets. No different than the desperation in the wild and just as chaotic. That's why capitalism is called "the dog that eats itself." We act like capitalism was invented or some shit. But all we have really done is tamed it. Like a rabid angry mutt it leaps around and causes destruction all in favor of the owner only. The owner sits around and makes excuses for the destruction, placing the blame on other people or circumstances, all of which are fallacies though. People try to sit around and write articles pretending that this filthy system is sophisticated. All it is is people sitting around trying to make excuses for the useful beast that no one gave birth to. They sit around and try to justify its faults, only because the system currently benefits them in particular ways, so they issue word in its favor. They try to give it definitions and terms to make it seem well defined and well rounded. But its all being done after it has been unleashed. They're simply making shit up after the fact. It is no strategized philosophy of any intellectual premeditation. That is why it is so fucked up. It might as well be a creation of nature, not of man, because it's as brutish as nature. Survival of the most fortunate is all it is.