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World Religious Philosophies
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| I_Guy |
Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 2:37 AM | Message # 1 |
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Sort of fascinating.
We all know that each of our end is near; the question is do we accept the end of our living existence, or do we accept our existence as dead men...
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| EmSeeD |
Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 3:25 AM | Message # 2 |
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that sounds pretty bullshit to me man, they celebrate greed, lustfulness etc, imagine how much more fucked up the world would be if we all lived that way.
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| I_Guy |
Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 4:11 AM | Message # 3 |
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Quote (EmSeeD) that sounds pretty bullshit to me man, they celebrate greed, lustfulness etc, imagine how much more fucked up the world would be if we all lived that way.
Yeah I know.
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| Acekat00o |
Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 4:19 AM | Message # 4 |
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I find some of its theories very understandable and logical ,from a analytical point of view i can say in my opinion that Satanists have a solid ground structure and are not what people say the most times they are ,as a civilized person i have nothing against their religion and wish them the best of luck but i remain to Gnosticism and Universalism
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| EmSeeD |
Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 4:32 AM | Message # 5 |
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it sounds like that but when you really think about it, it isn't good. a lot of racists are also satanists.
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| I_Guy |
Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 4:51 AM | Message # 6 |
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Quote (EmSeeD) it sounds like that but when you really think about it, it isn't good. a lot of racists are also satanists.
I agree to the extent of what acekat00o was saying. Their beliefs are logical and make sense, but it will only work in small groups. The world probably would collapse if everyone shared this ideology. But yeah, movies and entertainment mediums have made them out to be vicious murderers and evil doers. But Hollywood romanticizes everything. But then again, after doing some research, there are three categories of the Religious-left. It goes right along with politics, (in terms of philosophy, rather religious or irreligious) the further right you go the more conservative and the more strict Christian/Jewish/Muslim/Hindu you get and the further left you go into the middle you get atheism/agnostic/skeptic, and further left you get to satanism. (I guess the direction is based on the strictly devout or un-devout the beliefs are) Anyways, there's three categories of far left Hellish religions, Luciferianism (least bad), Satanism, and Demonism (furthest left and the worst, and also extends the furthest into history). Hollywood usually confuses Satanism with Demonism. Within Demonism all of the murderous/sacraficial cults arise.
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| EmSeeD |
Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 5:27 AM | Message # 7 |
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i think its best not to be too far left or right
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| I_Guy |
Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 5:32 AM | Message # 8 |
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Quote (EmSeeD) i think its best not to be too far left or right
Agreed, rather politics or philosophy.
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| Acekat00o |
Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 6:15 AM | Message # 9 |
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I can honestly say that in my opinion all Religion is BULLSHIT why the fuck would i believe that there is an invisible man in the clouds ready to strike me down if i have sex with my girlfriend ,why would i believe that the pope/rabi/any religios leader is the chosen of an invisible man that is all powerfull ,who am i the one to judge other religions ? nobody but when those religions (all of them) conflict with my existence and my liberty on this forsaken cowntry i have no choice but to speak and counter act as a logical mind before we kill ourselfs in the name of an invisible man that loves you but will cast you into a pit of fire for all eternity if you do not accept him as youre leader and follow his prophets blindly into a mass destruction "In the name of God"
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| I_Guy |
Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 6:37 AM | Message # 10 |
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Quote (Acekat00o) I can honestly say that in my opinion all Religion is BULLSHIT why the fuck would i believe that there is an invisible man in the clouds ready to strike me down if i have sex with my girlfriend ,why would i believe that the pope/rabi/any religios leader is the chosen of an invisible man that is all powerfull ,who am i the one to judge other religions ? nobody but when those religions (all of them) conflict with my existence and my liberty on this forsaken cowntry i have no choice but to speak and counter act as a logical mind before we kill ourselfs in the name of an invisible man that loves you but will cast you into a pit of fire for all eternity if you do not accept him as youre leader and follow his prophets blindly into a mass destruction "In the name of God"
I understand what you mean Ace. Try to keep these types of posts in the religious thread in the rant forum though. I'm hoping to avoid an argument here.
We all know that each of our end is near; the question is do we accept the end of our living existence, or do we accept our existence as dead men...
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| Acekat00o |
Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 7:02 AM | Message # 11 |
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Quote (I_Guy) I understand what you mean Ace. Try to keep these types of posts in the religious thread in the rant forum though. I'm hoping to avoid an argument here.
oh ok ,sorry if i dissed anyone ,i just had a kinda mad outburst but now the steam is good
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| Menace |
Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 8:42 AM | Message # 12 |
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are this these dudes those who deny God and the Devil and say Satanism is just a way of life no theist shit ?? LOL these are a bunch of hypocrites man they follow instructions from the black bible they wear Satanist symbolism more theist then that they can't be bunch of clowns. I will show you some real spooky religious philosophies anyone here heard of Theosophy ?? the Theosophical Society has famous members Scientology has nothing on these guys check the links http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theosophy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theosophical_Society And these Satanist clowns are a bunch of wannabes anyone here heard of Aleister Crowley ?? that's what i could call a real occultist check his religious philosophy named Thelema http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thelema Quote (I_Guy) But then again, after doing some research, there are three categories of the Religious-left. It goes right along with politics, (in terms of philosophy, rather religious or irreligious) the further right you go the more conservative and the more strict Christian/Jewish/Muslim/Hindu you get and the further left you go into the middle you get atheism/agnostic/skeptic, and further left you get to satanism. (I guess the direction is based on the strictly devout or un-devout the beliefs are) Anyways, there's three categories of far left Hellish religions, Luciferianism (least bad), Satanism, and Demonism (furthest left and the worst, and also extends the furthest into history). Hollywood usually confuses Satanism with Demonism. Within Demonism all of the murderous/sacraficial cults arise Me , Erik , Ace we are all far left individuals if you look on the political spectrum our ideas are on the extreme of the left wing but still we ain't Satanists , Demonists and such in fact there is such diversity in the Libertarian far left you will be amazed i got friends that share the same political belief whit me and are Christians that go to Church ever Sunday the thing is these people known what is secularism and as political activists they understand that religion has nothing to do whit politics religion is something personal as my Christian friend always tells me. The problem is in this usual misconception that the far left is less theist dates back to the French Revolution and the fight against monarchism in general people who seated on the right in the French Parliament were monarchist supporters and those who seated on the left were anti-monarchists from there this fight arose because the Monarchy was considered holy and these people hated the monarchy and considered heretics it's something historical I_Guy Conservatism and Fascism arose from remnant monarchist morals whit the disappearance of Monarchism from the political landscape Monarchists transcended their ideas into these ideologies that we know now and not to say that modern absolute Monarchism is the product of the institutionalization of Christianity by Emperor Constantine
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| I_Guy |
Date: Monday, 08/Jun/09, 5:28 AM | Message # 13 |
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Quote (Menace) Me , Erik , Ace we are all far left individuals if you look on the political spectrum our ideas are on the extreme of the left wing but still we ain't Satanists , Demonists and such
But notice you are all athiest/agnostic, on the middle of the religious spectrum.
I didn't say that if your far left on the political spectrum then you are far left on the religious spectrum. I wouldn't generalize like that. I was just say that religious philosophy has a left and right scale just like politics. Besides, if you want to make a correlation between religious philosophy and political philosophy they don't exactly line up with each other. On a left and right scale, religious philosophy extends further left than the left of political philosophy. If you were to try to align them, their would be no political philosophy that would line up with the far left of religious philosophy. By the way, isn't communism the furthest left? In a way, the rulers of communism in history are considered evil by many people today, but I don't feel that has any relevance to any religious philosophy. Yeah Thelema sort of falls under neopaganism, but more so under occultism. Yeah Crowley was on some crazy shit. Quote (Menace) And these Satanist clowns are a bunch of wannabes
I explained this, Satanism is in between Luciferianism and Demonism.
LaVey and his followers view satanism as a philosophy of freedom, not evil. They don't murder like in demonism. They are actually athiests who mock religions through rituals satiring the rituals of other religions. They see the world in chaos and feel that it is its natural evolutionary state. They don't actually worship satan as a deity, they worship his symbolism and his representation of rebellion, independence, and antifoundationalism, all in an attempt to mock religion and "sin" (within the law) to destroy religion (just as the mythological satan wishes). They say "all religion is showbiz, we are just the only ones that admit it." Basically it boils down to this, the mythological Satan wanted all people to rebell against the wishes of god. That's all these satanists are trying to do to destroy the worship of god..
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| eboyd |
Date: Monday, 08/Jun/09, 8:31 AM | Message # 14 |
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Quote (Acekat00o) I can honestly say that in my opinion all Religion is BULLSHIT why the fuck would i believe that there is an invisible man in the clouds ready to strike me down if i have sex with my girlfriend Quote (Acekat00o) but i remain to Gnosticism and Universalism ???!?!?!?!!!?!?!!!!
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| Menace |
Date: Monday, 08/Jun/09, 9:51 AM | Message # 15 |
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Quote (I_Guy) But notice you are all athiest/agnostic, on the middle of the religious spectrum.
I didn't say that if your far left on the political spectrum then you are far left on the religious spectrum. I wouldn't generalize like that. I was just say that religious philosophy has a left and right scale just like politics. Besides, if you want to make a correlation between religious philosophy and political philosophy they don't exactly line up with each other. On a left and right scale, religious philosophy extends further left than the left of political philosophy. If you were to try to align them, their would be no political philosophy that would line up with the far left of religious philosophy. By the way, isn't communism the furthest left? In a way, the rulers of communism in history are considered evil by many people today, but I don't feel that has any relevance to any religious philosophy. i was just trying to tell you that the right wing is more historically aligned whit religion because the right wing embodied what remained from monarchism it's a historical connection between the right wing and religion as there is a historical connection between secularism and the left wing and "communism" is a broad term Marx's communism ( China , Cuba ) is situated on the left wing while Libertarian Socialism or as people know it Anarchism is on the far left. Quote (I_Guy) I explained this, Satanism is in between Luciferianism and Demonism.
LaVey and his followers view satanism as a philosophy of freedom, not evil. They don't murder like in demonism. They are actually athiests who mock religions through rituals satiring the rituals of other religions. They see the world in chaos and feel that it is its natural evolutionary state. They don't actually worship satan as a deity, they worship his symbolism and his representation of rebellion, independence, and antifoundationalism, all in an attempt to mock religion and "sin" (within the law) to destroy religion (just as the mythological satan wishes). They say "all religion is showbiz, we are just the only ones that admit it." Basically it boils down to this, the mythological Satan wanted all people to rebell against the wishes of god. That's all these satanists are trying to do to destroy the worship of god.. OK but their practices fall in the theist category even if they don't believe in them they practice theism their rituals are theist rituals let me tell you like this a man that goes to Church wears a cross takes sacraments and then says he is a non believer and then a Satanist that goes to their Church wears Satanist symbolism participates in their rituals but he says hes a non believer too so what is the difference between this Satanist and this Christian ?? they both practice theism even if they don't believe in it even if these Satanists try to send a message against religion trough their rituals and philosophies they still practice THEISM
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