Fundamentalist religion also brings with it a feeling that with everything created 6000 years ago it is no big deal if some or even all are lost. A sense of the immense time that has taken to evolve both individual species and their ecological communities must surely make you pause before wantonly destroying something that is literally irreplaceable.

Furthermore if there is no time depth to the ecology of the Earth, if what we see now is what was created 6000 years ago, then there is nothing that can be learnt from past extinction events like the massive losses of species in Pleistocene times, the loss of the dinosaurs, the loss of the giant mammals. To the people who have 'museums' in which humans and dinosaurs coexist, and who interpret the history of the Grand Canyon in a biblical time scale, there were no extinction events (except of course the flood that led to Noah's Ark, perhaps one of the silliest of all the silly biblical beliefs about the history of the environment), no climatic changes. Not only can these people learn nothing from the past, they cannot therefore imagine a different future.

Finally understanding an ecosystem and the way it works involves a state of mind which can see the interconnections between things and knows that in the time since life was established on Earth there is no beginning and end to ecosystems. Nor do they have prime movers or first causes - a natural ecosystem is a self-sustaining system. Recognising that this is the way the world works would be difficult for those who believe that there is a supreme being who set everything in motion and keeps it in motion, and can be asked to set aside reality to suit the needs of a particular human individual.

In the religious mind humans in general have been set above the animal world by god as a totally separate creation. The attitude would be I guess that we could lose the whole of the natural world and it wouldn't matter, all that matters is that there would remain a bunch of humans (the ones with the correct religious beliefs obviously) on the ball of rock serving god and waiting for heaven. Environmental actions might be taken by religious people, but they would be taken from a sense of duty rather in the way that one might serve on a soup kitchen.

A country in which religious beliefs teach humans that they have no kinship with other animals, no linkages with the rest of the natural world through evolution and ecology, is also dysfunctional. Conservation of the environment has to be the result of people feeling that kinship with the world they evolved into, not one in which a few species (the deserving ones) are saved in zoos and the rest of the ecosystem destroyed. Such a strategy may work in the short term, just as putting people in workhouses works in the short term, but we urgently need approaches for both society and the environment that work in the long term. Religion is preventing the development of such approaches, not because of the belief that humans have dominion over the natural world, as important as that fallacy is, but because of the belief that humans are separate from the natural world. Religious beliefs in this area align with the ideology of economic rationalism, both blind faiths need to be left behind, and quickly

in fact if u could check my work u will see that i study abrahamic religions check all my threads in the political section on religion to understand me ive studied the bible the koran and the torah and i am a born muslim and i was a devoted one too but studyin the koran made me doubt the institution called religion not the religious people whit the rise of jihadism zionism im am more pushed to show the flaws of religion and what religion makes the people do the world now days as well as in the past is still in religious turmoil they are many people that are FUNDAMENTALISTS and our children are denied their education because religion i dont know why u replied if u dont see yourself as a FUNDAMENTALIST

I don't believe in a "higher power" ex. God.
I believe in the quantum physical point of view on the situation of our lives. the laws of attraction, etc. don't get me wrong. I'm not a narrow minded, one way, "my way is the right way" type of dude. I grew up a catholic.
i've read and studied the bible. but I believe there is no greater power than what we our, ourselves. I believe we our own God(s). that we are simply, consciousness. Nothing more, nothing less. what we live and experience is a holographic view that our brains put together from the signals that we receive. I believe we are in complete control of our lives. we create what lies ahead.
I can go more in depth. but I'm on my phone. hit me with a response dude.

You may be new to the website? we have in depth discussions like this a lot. So, welcome

I believe also that our experiences mold us to believe what we do. I said before that I grew up Catholic. I've read and studied scripture. I'm currently focusing on the Quaran. I have an open mind and would like to hear more of what you believe.
that is all I meant

whether you believe in an actually entity called "God" or, like me, don't, this is probably the most valid post in this whole thread.

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