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Okay to recap i cited WWI and WWII and Spanish Civil War and Vietnam as ideological wars.
I also cited that Buddhist warrior monks also killed and used their religious ideology to absolve themselves, and that thier method, killing without emotion, was little more than a trained psychosis...not illness but a nurtured mindstate,Buddhism declares that all should remove themselves of any emotive ties to achieve purity of action.
Can someone be truely good when commiting harmful acts to others in the name of anything?
Many, infact most, people who follow Abrahamic religions commit no atrocity, its down to the individuals capacity.
Also more people died in the so called world wars than died in all wars in history to that point combined,throw in religious pogroms and it makes little difference to the total.
So are Communism/Capitalism/Anarchism religions, no they are as you state ideologies, bereft of the notion of God.
The murders of muslims in the Soviet Empire were precisely because they believed in a God, Stalin didn't kill them all other individuals were complicit, the same applied to Buddhists Taoists Muslims Christians and Animists in China.
The bible and many other books in the semetic religions say many things, for example Isiah states he who slays an Ox it is though he slayed a man.
Equating the killing of animals to be as serious as the killing of humans, surely a healthy and sound point of view.
Yet many many so called Christians eat beef pork chicken etc.
So not all, if any, Christians live the, or act on all of, the Bible.
Their morals are as individual as their fingerprints regardless of the so called moral code they profess to rally around.
To say otherwise is an act of de-humanisation.
People of any persuation, religious non-religious ideological non-ideological all hold the inherent belief that thier way or lack of way is superior to others wether through blind faith or exercises in rationalism.
What would suit me is if they minded their own affairs didn't evangalise and just be the good people they profess they are, scrutinising their own wants and actions without imposing on others and creating tensions that are unnessecary by engaging in little more than exercises of egoism.
So i would agree that if atheism is not a "cause" the arguement is irrelevent however the "cause" of religion is also irrelevent and a smokescreen.
Atheisim dosn't make people good as much as religion makes people bad.
People kill people regardless or despite of what they do or don't believe in; to try and quantify which groups are the worst is also irrelevent when the common factor across the board is humanity itself.
A this versus that standpoint achieves little in my mind.
Peace bro!
