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ilikebacon3000 Date: Wednesday, 08/Apr/09, 6:06 PM | Message # 1

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Who is the leader of the New Marcus Garvey Movement?

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N.M.G.M. is wayyyyyyyyy different from New Black Panthers.
They arent violent, and they just want the black population to be segregated and build their own culture. They also realize that alot of white people arent racist.
What is his name?


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Menace Date: Wednesday, 08/Apr/09, 6:17 PM | Message # 2

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The New Marcus Garvey Movement is a defunct movement and organization i don't know who told you that or who told you that the Marcus Garvey movement was a segregationist movement they = weren't and they are defunct

Menace Date: Wednesday, 08/Apr/09, 6:20 PM | Message # 3

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The Universal Negro Improvement Association ( UNIA ) is the official movement of Marcus Garvey the New Marcus Garvey Movement was a back to Africa clandestine organization in the 60's

eboyd Date: Wednesday, 08/Apr/09, 6:58 PM | Message # 4

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^^^^^ EXACTLY how I studied it in school. Big ups to KRS-One and edutainment because if it weren't for him they still wouldn't be teaching about Marcus Garvey in school. Now, in the new millennium, Marcus Garvey is part of the required curriculum in 20th century US history.

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ilikebacon3000 Date: Wednesday, 08/Apr/09, 9:49 PM | Message # 5

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I was watching a documentery on N.B.P.P and it said that the new marcus garvey movement wants to show that black people can build their own society.
And I dont understand what the n.b.p.p. is fighting for...
Like I am going to be 100% honest.
Old Black Panthers had ALOT of shit to fight for. african americans were being FUCKED OVER.
But now the Nbpp is saying that the white man is causing african americans to be stuck in the hood.
Bullshit.
IF, the hood is occupied by black people, and IF, drug dealers, shooters, are fucking up the hood that they live in, then the people who are doing it are black.
And nothing is ANYONE, ANY color from getting off there ass and getting a job at mcdonalds. I mean no one of any color is going to get hired as a Metlife rep with no past experience, degree, etc. If you didnt go to college, plain and simple, chances are you will get a shitty ass job.
Nothing is stopping them from going and getting a job. Nothing. Like this is going to sound racist, but it isnt. Mexicans work. You see them working at Mcdonalds, digging ditches, etc. Well its because they know that they have to work to get some where. There is no "White agenda" or "White man" stopping them.
this "White Man" and "Black Man" shit is soooooooooo 1800's and people from BOTH ethnic groups need to move the fuck on and get together.
And I saw a guy from nbpp saying "We want the culture. We want the schools. We want the ----. the ----... etc".
Well then do it!
Stop protesting the shit and go do something! If I remeber right, I forgot exactly who, but one of the NBPP leading members was a lawyer.
And they were burning an American flag to show hatred for the government. Thats bullshit.
Burning the flag is perfectly ok. I have no problem with it. Its in the Amendments that its legal.
I could go outside, burn a flag, and say "I hate every Ni**er in america, and god will make them burn in hell for being black" and that is perfectly legal as long as I dont threaten to hurt the president, cause mass hysteria, or threaten to bomb/set fire to a bus, plane, federal building etc.
But if it werent for the government we have, chances are, since this government is pre-domiintly white run (at the moment), they would be getting shot in another country. So why are they whining? Pull that shit in some countrys in the middle east and you will get shot up.
Its total bullshit. Its fucking wrong.
In the words of immortal technique.....
"I love the place that I live, but I hate the people in charge"

*Note:Not all minorty groups go out and sit on there ass. It just happens that some of the people who sit on there ass and whine about it are a minorty. I know alot of hard working minortys. My freind Blake's dad is a District Attorney, and he is full black. My freind Rodrigos dad worked at the same restraunt for 13 years and worked his way up, and now hes head chef. You gotta work for shit.

Menace.... Please educate me on this. I dont understand why they are fighting for a problem that isnt there. Nothing is stopping one of them from going and being a judge.
Shit, plenty of black people are big in entertainment. Arsenio Hall. Will Smith. Lil Wayne (poorly represents but he runs shit. He has the youth brainwashed, black and white.).
Politics. Our president is black. Al green (not the singer). Al sharpton. Delores Tucker. Condeleeza Rice. Alcee Hastings.
Sports- Most "star athletes" are black. Kobe, LT, Manny Remeriz, Serena Williams, tiger Woods.
Now I will admit, there are alot more white teachers/educators than black ones, but that might just be because Im in middle school and because I live in Oklahoma.
So yeah.
Apperciate whoever read all that and actually took it to their brain.


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EmSeeD Date: Thursday, 09/Apr/09, 1:18 AM | Message # 6

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I was watching a documentery on N.B.P.P and it said that the new marcus garvey movement wants to show that black people can build their own society.
And I dont understand what the n.b.p.p. is fighting for...
Like I am going to be 100% honest.
Old Black Panthers had ALOT of shit to fight for. african americans were being FUCKED OVER.
But now the Nbpp is saying that the white man is causing african americans to be stuck in the hood.
Bullshit.
IF, the hood is occupied by black people, and IF, drug dealers, shooters, are fucking up the hood that they live in, then the people who are doing it are black.

i don't know but they can't keep blaming the white man, they should bring some programs or movement or whatever to help people from these areas. coz its not always the white man, although the problems started with being oppressed and there is still racism that they have to deal with. and i think the whole gang thing started from the oppression and segregation, i don't know enough about this but i know segregation had a lot to do with the ghetto environments. idk if this is still the case.


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eboyd Date: Thursday, 09/Apr/09, 2:11 AM | Message # 7

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T-Nizzle, I don't think you realize Dolores Tucker passed away a few years ago.

Anyways, you are a very intelligent person and I commend you for that. I don't, however, think you yet realize that racism is still very real. It is almost irrelevant in comparison to what it was in the 60's and before, and even in comparison to the 90's, but still very alive. Don't be blind to it. That being said, I've already expressed what you are feeling right now in a poem that I uploaded to YouTube about a year and a half ago called "White Man." Check it, leave a comment, PM me and tell me what you think, etc. My screen name is eboyd32. WATCH IT though! Don't avoid checking it out or I WILL BOTHER YOU ABOUT IT EVERY DAY! biggrin


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Menace Date: Thursday, 09/Apr/09, 10:50 AM | Message # 8

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T-Nizzle i personally oppose the NBPP for almost half a year i have a constant debate whit the national minister of the NBPP they use a twisted version of Black Nationalism whit a NOI tendency they don't present any solutions so we can help the black communities check this link :

There Is No New Black Panther Party: An Open Letter From the Dr. Huey P. Newton Foundation
http://www.blackpanther.org/newsalert.htm

and T-nizzle understand that racism socially speaking is not so big now days but the USA has institutionalized racism even if you don't have anymore racists you have racism institutionalized so the black communities are still pretty much oppressed economically so the need of organizing the black communities is still alive the old Panthers had a slogan "create wealth inside the community for the community" the old Panthers understood that the wealth in America goes around the black communities not in them. Your country T-nizzle was built on a racist infrastructure even if you have a black president it doesn't change shit maybe a window of opportunity is opened to a selected few but the problems of the masses are not solved and let me give you some examples of institutionalized racism.

1. In 1935, the U.S. Congress passed the Social Security Act, guaranteeing an income for millions of workers after retirement. However, the Act specifically excluded domestic and agricultural workers, many of whom were Mexican-American, African-American, and Asian-American. These workers were therefore not guaranteed an income after retirement, and had less opportunity to save, accumulate, and pass wealth on to future generations.

2. The U.S. property appraisal system created in the 1930s tied property value and eligibility for government loans to race. Thus, all-White neighborhoods received the government's highest property value ratings, and White people were eligible for government loans. Between 1934 and 1962, less than 2% of government-subsidized housing went to non-White people.

So you see T-nizzle the system itself was made to denigrate black communities 40 years ago Blacks were not recognized as human beings in the US now one of them is president you must give time so this system of " white supremacy" as Malcolm X said will come down


ilikebacon3000 Date: Thursday, 09/Apr/09, 11:01 PM | Message # 9

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you realize Dolores Tucker passed away a few years ago.

Yes I do. But that doesent make her not important.

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Your country T-nizzle was built on a racist infrastructure even if you have a black president it doesn't change shit maybe a window of opportunity is opened to a selected few but the problems of the masses are not solved and let me give you some examples of institutionalized racism.

I agree with that. Totally. America was built on very racist principles. On July 4th, 1776, it wasnt freedom for black people. Most of them were slaves.

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In 1935, the U.S. Congress passed the Social Security Act, guaranteeing an income for millions of workers after retirement. However, the Act specifically excluded domestic and agricultural workers, many of whom were Mexican-American, African-American, and Asian-American. These workers were therefore not guaranteed an income after retirement, and had less opportunity to save, accumulate, and pass wealth on to future generations.

Interesting.... that is actually very strong in defesne of the minortys.

And I guess its hard for me to imagine a world where white people would actually HURT people because they are black. Where I live, most of the black people act "White". They live a middle class life. However, all the mexicans act, well, "Mexican" or "Black.", and they are all my best freinds. So its hard for me to picture I guess.

By the way, the whole "Acting White" thing is shit. People act how they act. bottom line. There is no "Color" way to act

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eboyd, Btw thanks.
I will check it out.


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eboyd Date: Friday, 10/Apr/09, 2:58 AM | Message # 10

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Yes, but barely. It's ridiculous man. They don't even teach about Che Guevara. I found out about Che when my classmate (a Hispanic kid) was reading his biography (is Motorcycle Diaries a book too? Because I think it was that if it was. Idk) during this period in home room where we get to school and have to read for 30 minutes every day. He told me all about Che. Otherwise I would have never known. Some people in the US still consider him a murderer, commie bastard, etc. It's sad.

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Acekat00o Date: Friday, 10/Apr/09, 3:11 AM | Message # 11

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Some people in the US still consider him a murderer, commie bastard, etc. It's sad.

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Menace Date: Friday, 10/Apr/09, 10:41 AM | Message # 12

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well he was a commie Che was a commie but calling him a murderer ?? the dude is the first self proclaimed Atheist that was sanctified by the Catholic Church

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