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What is up with the EXTREMELY lame start of 2010?
TheWatcher Date: Wednesday, 10/Feb/10, 5:19 PM | Message # 31

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Its universally accepted that Joe Budden is weak...He gets acknowledged cuz of his Mood Musik mixtapes

Exactly :D I haven't really checked those mixtapes out though.

Lord_Meth Date: Wednesday, 10/Feb/10, 5:21 PM | Message # 32

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Exactly I haven't really checked those mixtapes out though.

If ur not a fan of him dont bother....to me Joe is weak but every now and then he does have SOME nice lines


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EmSeeD Date: Wednesday, 10/Feb/10, 5:25 PM | Message # 33

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Exactly I haven't really checked those mixtapes out though.

of course you haven't all your opinions of budden are based on the fact he dissed Method Man. As far as i'm concerned that beef ended when Raekwon punched him in the eye, i don't like the fact he dissed Method Man but i know lyrically Joe Budden is far from garbage


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TheWatcher Date: Wednesday, 10/Feb/10, 5:37 PM | Message # 34

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of course you haven't all your opinions of budden are based on the fact he dissed Method Man. As far as i'm concerned that beef ended when Raekwon punched him in the eye, i don't like the fact he dissed Method Man but i know lyrically Joe Budden is far from garbage

That's your opinion, Joe Budden is garbage as far as I'm concerned. I've checked out a fair bit of his tracks, including all his verses on the Slaughterhouse album (easily the weakest member). For one thing the dude sounds like he's both falling asleep & taking a shit on the mic at the same time. I don't know whether it's because he's still the same old angel-dust-sniffing-choir-boy he used to be or because his brain is still out of order since back then. Dude's got some issues and it shows on the mic, he's practically drooling. You'd think being in a group with 3 other emcees would force you to step up your game but it didn't. But yes, I am a Wu-Tang fan and I would take Wu-Tang over Budden any day, Budden is garbage in comparison and needs to get away from Slaughterhouse and start doing some tracks with Wayne & Drake, he'll come of like the most lyrical motherfucker on planet earth next to Wayne and his shit won't sound nearly as bad.

TheWatcher Date: Wednesday, 10/Feb/10, 5:38 PM | Message # 35

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If you want to keep sucking his dick that's fine though, Tahiri (or however that's spelled) ain't doing it anymore.
eboyd Date: Wednesday, 10/Feb/10, 8:39 PM | Message # 36

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Joe Budden's not garbage to me, but he's less than spectacular. i mean Phil Da Ag could run laps around him and that's basically what this whole argument was about. Joe Budden doesn't belong in Slaughterhouse. he brings the group down. he's like Slaughterhouse's U-God.

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EmSeeD Date: Wednesday, 10/Feb/10, 9:42 PM | Message # 37

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Watcher let me put it to you this way Joe Budden>>>>>>Raekwon, U-God and maybe even Ghostface,

i'm not even a Joe Budden fan so don't even go down that route, but i'm unbiased enough to know Joe Budden isn't garbage, yes i think Joe is the least lyrical from Slaughterhouse, and he isn't top 10 or top 20 to me, but that doesn't make him garbage. and you don't just hate on Joe Budden you hate on all of Slaughterhouse, you hated on all 4 members simply because one of the members dissed Method Man.


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EmSeeD Date: Wednesday, 10/Feb/10, 9:43 PM | Message # 38

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who do you think is better lyrically Raekwon or Joe Budden?

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Lord_Meth Date: Wednesday, 10/Feb/10, 9:48 PM | Message # 39

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and maybe even Ghostface,

%) ghostface is dope lol


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Joker13 Date: Thursday, 11/Feb/10, 0:00 AM | Message # 40

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Watcher let me put it to you this way Joe Budden>>>>>>Raekwon, U-God and maybe even Ghostface,

leave this site yo i seriously don't want to see you here for at least three days


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EmSeeD Date: Thursday, 11/Feb/10, 0:13 AM | Message # 41

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rofl maybe not ghostface but the other two definitely

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J-Breakz Date: Thursday, 11/Feb/10, 1:16 AM | Message # 42

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oh my, we're gonna have hip hop drama occuring

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abanks47 Date: Thursday, 11/Feb/10, 2:57 AM | Message # 43

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Its universally accepted that Joe Budden is weak...He gets acknowledged cuz of his Mood Musik mixtapes

i hold no judgment until i hear at least a full album. he is neither whack nor hot in my mind. im sure the cats in slaughterhouse think hes hot. might be universally accepted that hes a bitch tho lol. catching feeling the way he did on web tv and being socked in the face LOL

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Watcher let me put it to you this way Joe Budden>>>>>>Raekwon, U-God and maybe even Ghostface,

damn do you really think this?
dude i aint heard too much budden but all i know is intro verse to CREAM trumps his entire life LOL. U god intro verse to da mystery of chess boxin fuckin cripples budden and gives joebudden tv.com a fuckin virus it will never come back form. and come on now, depending on how you look at it ghost is either not very lyrical or one of the most lyrical MCs doin it. hes fallen off a lil bit but supreme, ironman...need i say more. what more do you need. i really hope that was just some sick joke lol.

also Triumph aka one of the best joints in hip hop history. yeah thats right. please provide one track that budden does that stacks up to some of there whackest shit


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J-Breakz Date: Thursday, 11/Feb/10, 3:54 AM | Message # 44

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really? i'm going to have to vehemently disagree.

The first song is horribly eq'd. You hear more bass from the needle going across the vinyl in the sample then the kick or music sampled. It sounds like he didn't even eq it at all. I can't blast a song in my car cuz all u hear is a random ass bass tone. it sounds okay on headphones but not in the car


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eboyd Date: Thursday, 11/Feb/10, 4:30 AM | Message # 45

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at least be fair (and i think Rae is pretty much mediocre at best as well)...

I grew up on the crime side, the New York Times side
Staying alive was no jive
Had second hands, moms bounced on old man
So then we moved to Shaolin land
A young youth, yo rockin the gold tooth, 'Lo goose
Only way, I begin to G' off was drug loot
And let's start it like this son, rollin with this one
And that one, pullin out gats for fun
But it was just a dream for the teen, who was a fiend
Started smokin woolies at sixteen
And running up in gates, and doing hits for high stakes
Making my way on fire escapes
No question I would speed, for cracks and weed
The combination made my eyes bleed
No question I would flow off, and try to get the dough off
Sticking up white boys in ball courts
My life got no better, same damn 'Lo sweater
Times is rough and tough like leather
Figured out I went the wrong route
So I got with a sick tight clique and went all out
Catchin keys from across seas
Rollin in MPV's, every week we made forty G's
Yo brothas respect mine, or anger the tech nine
Ch-POW! Move from the gate now

but of course let's be fair again. this is probably Rae's best verse and he gets out shined on the track by Deck:

It's been 22 long hard years and still strugglin
Survival got me buggin, but I'm alive on arrival
I peep at the shape of the streets
And stay awake to the ways of the world cause shit is deep
A man with a dream with plans to make C.R.E.A.M.
Which failed; I went to jail at the age of 15
A young buck sellin drugs and such who never had much
Trying to get a clutch at what I could not touch
The court played me short, now I face incarceration
Pacin', going up state's my destination
Handcuffed in back of a bus, 40 of us
Life as a shorty shouldn't be so rough
But as the world turns I learned life is Hell
Living in the world, no different from a cell
Everyday I escape from Jakes givin chase, sellin base
Smokin bones in the staircase
Though I don't know why I chose to smoke sess
I guess that's the time when I'm not depressed
But I'm still depressed, and I ask what's it worth?
Ready to give up so I seek the Old Earth
Who explained working hard may help you maintain
to learn to overcome the heartaches and pain
We got stickup kids, corrupt cops, and crack rocks
and stray shots, all on the block that stays hot
Leave it up to me while I be living proof
To kick the truth to the young black youth
But shorty's running wild, smokin sess, drinkin beer
And ain't trying to hear what I'm kickin in his ear
Neglected for now, but yo, it gots to be accepted
That what? That life is hectic


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