By definition, any case of a parent killing a child would, I hope, be an extreme case. This was meant only to illustrate that there MIGHT be a real-life imaginable scenario, whether present-day or in biblical times, under which a parent might go to such an extreme, and was offered in response to the statement that such a deed could NEVER be considered by a parent.

I would never put an absolute on something like that. What I said, which you so obviously ignored, was that what Jesus said implied that kids should be put to death for cursing their parents which, at best, due to the definition of the word and it's etymology showing that it actually has a harsher connotation today than it did in history, means that kids are to be put to death for things so harsh as murdering their parents, but also for far less severe crimes such as disobedience.

And sodr, I haven't forgotten about you. I'll get to it.

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The Christian church didn't start as a monolith as you think they started as small cults the cults that survived formed the first big church . The First Council of Nicae and the creation of the church was in 325 AD . 325 years after the presumed crucifixion of Jesus. There is NO direct connection between Jesus or his apostles and the first council of nicae or Emperor Constantine. Between the Crucifixion of Jesus (c.26-36) and the First Council of Nicaea in 325 there was NO CHRISTIAN CHURCH there were only cults . So HISTORY tells us that your Church is not valid either because we can't find a solid HISTORICAL connection between the fathers of the early church and Jesus and his apostles .

Early Christianity (c. 30 – 325)

It seems that at first the terms 'episcopos' and 'presbyter' were used interchangeably. The general consensus among scholars has been that, at the turn of the first and second centuries, local congregations were led by bishops and presbyters whose offices were overlapping or indistinguishable. Some sources believe that there was probably no single 'monarchical' bishop in Rome before the middle of the second century ... and likely later."