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Philosophy Accomplishes Goals That Religions Wish They Could
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| s0dr2 |
Date: Sunday, 29/Nov/09, 5:53 PM | Message # 31 |
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ok but a lotta good music came from the time of the church
Quote (Menace) Beethoven's 5th symphony was created because he didn't like Napoleon and his exploits in Prussia
im not even gonna ask how u know that
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain
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| Menace |
Date: Sunday, 29/Nov/09, 5:59 PM | Message # 32 |
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im not even gonna ask how u know that from here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_van_Beethoven Quote (sodr2) ok but a lotta good music came from the time of the church not entirely many people forget most classical music was made by command by kinds and queens for them and their aristocracy and most classical musicians made songs dedicated to the aristocracy so they can get PAID . and secondly many religious people piss me off whit that religion brought the morals to the secular multicultural world we have today !!! man thats completely bullshit they need to check their history when the French Revolution began and when the Age of Enlightenment began whit it monarchists in front whit the clergy stood in the way of basic human rights and freedom to all . I fucking hate those people at Fox News talking about the US Constitution being influenced by religion when religion at that time was against every ounce of Enlightenment oriented or Enlightenment based country , institution or act .
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| s0dr2 |
Date: Sunday, 29/Nov/09, 6:25 PM | Message # 33 |
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werent enlightenment-ists still deists? i found something else religion has accomplished....saturdays and sundays off!!
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain
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| Menace |
Date: Sunday, 29/Nov/09, 6:37 PM | Message # 34 |
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Quote (sodr2) werent enlightenment-ists still deists? indeed deism was consider atheism at that time LOL  but no philosopher acted on his intrinsic religious biases if you read many enlightenment thinkers will you see that sense of down to earth that sense of universal brotherhood that goes beyond the boundaries of religion .
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| eboyd |
Date: Sunday, 29/Nov/09, 11:52 PM | Message # 35 |
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[quote=sodr]Religion (according to the Bible) that is pleasing to God is to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, house the homeless, bring hope to the hopeless and comfort those who mourn, [b]treat others the way you want to be treated[/b], and forgive those who hurt you.[/quote] Those can all be summed up by the bolded one and all of us have told you at least ten times that is a philosophical and secular principle that is far older than Christianity and has nothing to do with religion as the Greeks put their religious biases at bay and many were actually atheists (Democritus, Epicurus, Socrates, etc.).
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| s0dr2 |
Date: Monday, 30/Nov/09, 11:27 AM | Message # 36 |
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Quote (eboyd) Those can all be summed up by the bolded one and all of us have told you at least ten times that is a philosophical and secular principle that is far older than Christianity and has nothing to do with religion as the Greeks put their religious biases at bay and many were actually atheists (Democritus, Epicurus, Socrates, etc.).
1- i wansnt the one who said that, 2--who cares about the origin of that principle? isnt it still because of Chriistianity that these acts of charity happened, all the orphanages and hospitals, etc?
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain
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| Menace |
Date: Monday, 30/Nov/09, 2:57 PM | Message # 37 |
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Quote (sodr2) 1- i wansnt the one who said that, 2--who cares about the origin of that principle? isnt it still because of Chriistianity that these acts of charity happened, all the orphanages and hospitals, etc? No orphanages and hospitals in a secular society are part of the public domain they funded by the state
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| s0dr2 |
Date: Monday, 30/Nov/09, 3:32 PM | Message # 38 |
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lol how about.......civilization........  tell me if this makes sense
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain
Message edited by sodr2 - Monday, 30/Nov/09, 3:35 PM
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| Menace |
Date: Monday, 30/Nov/09, 3:43 PM | Message # 39 |
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Quote (sodr2) ol how about.......civilization........ tell me if this makes sense what about it ??
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| s0dr2 |
Date: Monday, 30/Nov/09, 3:52 PM | Message # 40 |
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it says religion is a factor for civilization ..........
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain
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| Menace |
Date: Monday, 30/Nov/09, 3:58 PM | Message # 41 |
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Quote (sodr2) it says religion is a factor for civilization .......... of course it is but what makes it more relevant then others ???
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| s0dr2 |
Date: Monday, 30/Nov/09, 4:20 PM | Message # 42 |
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joanna?
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain
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| Menace |
Date: Monday, 30/Nov/09, 4:22 PM | Message # 43 |
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huh ?? you mean Joanna Krupa LOL
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| s0dr2 |
Date: Monday, 30/Nov/09, 4:37 PM | Message # 44 |
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there was a time when that picture would tempt me... Added (30/Nov/09, 4:37 Pm)
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can philosophy help me with self control like religion? i dont think so
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain
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| Menace |
Date: Monday, 30/Nov/09, 5:04 PM | Message # 45 |
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Quote (sodr2) can philosophy help me with self control like religion? i dont think so but religion fails when it comes to self control it FAILS TERRIBLY
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