Menace, I_Guy and i never formulate our arguments based on conspiracy theories, or when we do we make sure to go out of our way to put a disclaimer on our statements and make it apparent that it is a conspiracy theory that, although we feel strongly about it, we recognize that it is something that is not provable. remember, all three of us are college students and scholars in history, Menace more so than both of us. i have extensively studied US history in school, Menace has extensively studied world history, and I_Guy has quite a bit of knowledge on these subjects as well. i can sit down and give you a long list of extremely corrupt things the US government has condoned throughout history and the worst part is that all of it is actual hard fact backed by empirical proof. i am talking about things based on studies that were the life's work of several historians. the corruption has come equally from both sides of the political spectrum as well. you on the other hand are just a 15 (?) year old kid who has gone through 2 or 3 years of high school at best and are in the United States school system, the system in which no real learning occurs until college anyways. trust me, wait until you take a college course on this subject and have an outstanding American History teacher to teach you before you formulate an opinion, otherwise you will come off sounding very ignorant.

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i know, but i was proving that because of several individuals throughout history, that statement is false. yeah, sure there are good individuals in the government and no the government in the US is not inherently bad, but the people that have power within the government always make the majority insignificant. decisions get made very often on the whim of a select few elite politicians who work hand in hand with, and often directly for, lobbyists. it's a bureaucracy, plain and simple, and it always will be, and that is how it has always worked.

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no no don't say that "socialist" was originally defined to include "all those who believed in the individual's right to possess what he or she produced " socialist is a very very old term way before Marx first we need to clear this issue of names so in the future we will know how to recognize stuff Democrats are not pseudo socialists you can call them pseudo Marxists or the best name for them is State Capitalists because in their idea a government may own or even monopolize the means of production but of course the market still exists the others the Republicans can be called Corporate Capitalists well here the name implies all the name socialism must be cleaned because of these Marxists and quasi Marxists people don't believe that Socialism in reality was born out of Libertarianism the first socialists were Libertarians socialism is anarchism Bakunin said that " freedom without Socialism is privilege and injustice, and Socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality " i took my time to explain this because you as an anarchist must know these things

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ohh government is inherently bad cause government never gave your rights you took them and put them into practice government never gave you freedom you took it an example is the slave days on paper all men are equal but until people revolted slavery was still in effect as for segregation until the actual people didn't revolt shit didn't go and for our legal 8 hours per day at work the wooblies fought for that even the constitution was a partially popular document in a government a thing occurs thats called wealth polarisation it's an inevitable effect of having a government this leads to having strong gaps between social classes its widely known in history that huge gaps between social classes are a threat for society itself

study some political science before you reply at least don't be ignorant enough to reply whit ignorant comments if you know to reply to things regarding political science reply if not don't or at least be humble enough and funny as NTG up here ^^^

As for the latter half of that comment, tell pre-Aristotelian Greece, who lived under Anarchy for hundreds of years, that what Menace is talking about is all "just on paper." It's been about 200 years with American capitalism and look, it's failing as we speak. It's been seriously corrupt and it has marginalized everyone in the lower and middle class for well over 100 years already and if it wasn't for the election of Obama we would be looking at a second revolution in the near future. The only reason capitalism hasn't already been overthrown in the US is that the government keeps the masses comfortably numb and they use the excuse that "well, America is the greatest country in the world, so why complain?" What we are is the most POWERFUL country in the world. If we are talking quality of life, the Netherlands has that. I can't make a judgment on where is better to live because I've never lived in nor been to the Netherlands, but they are said to have the best quality of life. Why? They run their country in such a way that keeping a strong middle class is their number 1 priority. Bottom line, anarchy works, as long as it is broken up into syndicates, because the people who said that having a country as big as the US run as one huge conglomeration under anarchy won't work because nothing will ever get done were right. That is why it needs to be broken down into the syndicates but interconnected. In other words, you will still have the US but decisions on a national level will not be made through a vote between all the people in the country but rather a specific group who has been appointed for the purposes of that specific type of decision making. So if we are going to go to war, for example, that decision will be made by a group of people who have gone to school to train for military tactics and strategy. Decision on the local level would be 100% democratic however.

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anarchist societies never go to war at least modern ones like the Free Territory of Ukraine or Catalonia if they are attacked they defend themselves thats it and strategy and all that military stuff of course that will be made by professionals but still everything will made in a libertarian manner, based on federations of free communes and workers' councils and incorporating self-managed militias because if we don't organize like this the chances to have some rogue generals whit a military coup on their mind is quite possible

he thinks about these politicians that promise the people that they will do this and that but in reality they ain't even qualified to them in a participatory society everyone does their job and does what they are qualified to do