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| Chinita |
Date: Wednesday, 20/May/09, 10:02 AM | Message # 31 |
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Quote (ill) to an extent but things like roads, education, water
alot of things we take for granted
yea but that stuff isnt handed to us for free, its not a gift, we work our asses off dam near 15 or more hours a day, nearly double hour shifts to work hard all day long then most of that pay goes to taxes goes to building these roads, education, police officers. its not given to us we earned it and then some. yes maybe some americans are a little spoiled compared to what others get but we work dammmm hard for whatever we get, harder you work the more we can provide for our kids cause you can't depend on no goverment to care for them, to each is own...if not you are homeless in the streets but really aint nothing free. it aint like it was 10 15 years ago when we could get help like housing if u lived in the streets although they might make it seem that way but no there is like a 10 year waiting list here for housing, for families..its gotten terible, people are living 8 to an apartment because they can't pay these hi rents and on top of that buy food for the family and most are living in shelters..i think the media makes it sound like we living in luxary apartments, with birght lights and city streets lol there are alot of hell holes here and many poor that dont get enough to feed their families either and that you dont see or are in the eye of the media. you dont know how hard it is when u do have to make a choice to either feed your children or pay your $1,000 gas or eletectric bill or having to choose between paying ur rent or feeding ur kids.. its not handed to us, people think cause there is welfare which also comes out of our taxes but welfare dont help, they dont do crap and the people that do have it only get enough to pay feed one mouth and no shelter. everyone has it bad in there own way, its hard everywhere but we are not living like kings and queens in america either.
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| ill |
Date: Wednesday, 20/May/09, 10:07 AM | Message # 32 |
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yeah but when you pax taxes and it gets divided your money is spent alot better, private schooling a kid costs like £10,000 a year or term i cant remember but its alot, all the cables for internet, water, electricity, communication. you pay for it but youd have to pay for it anyway so i dont see the problem?
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| Menace |
Date: Wednesday, 20/May/09, 10:12 AM | Message # 33 |
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so this entity named state or country done nothing people done it that's why we must not oversimplify this notion of "country" or go all patriotic because people , humans in general are known for their mobility and constant change and Erik is not comfortable living at the expense of others that's why he reacted like that and it's stupid and very disrespectful to say that to Erik no diss intended it's like in the novel 1984 we make the world a living hell so we can keep our people subdued and at home
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| Menace |
Date: Wednesday, 20/May/09, 10:16 AM | Message # 34 |
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Heads
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Quote (ill) yeah but when you pax taxes and it gets divided your money is spent alot better, private schooling a kid costs like £10,000 a year or term i cant remember but its alot, all the cables for internet, water, electricity, communication. you pay for it but youd have to pay for it anyway so i dont see the problem? so ?? i work to make my life better the only way to thank my country is to let my country give me free food a free roof under my head free internet and such but NO i work for them so the country as you present it does NOTHING i DO IT
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| El_Matador |
Date: Wednesday, 20/May/09, 10:19 AM | Message # 35 |
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Quote (Menace) free internet I had to pay my internet bill yesterday..... 
MENACE 2 JOKER: Go back to Mexico you damn spic
JOKER 2 MENACE: Shut up you fake nigga your a damn sand nigger not a full nigger 
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| ill |
Date: Wednesday, 20/May/09, 10:20 AM | Message # 36 |
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Emcees
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yes because you are part of the country
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| Chinita |
Date: Wednesday, 20/May/09, 10:21 AM | Message # 37 |
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Heads
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Quote (ill) private schooling
private schooling, only the rich here can afford private schooling.. our kids go to public school where the main concentration is drug dealing, fights, weapons in the hallway and no kid is getting a good education because there are 40 kids to one teacher so the only people that have there kids in private school is the high class rich.. i seriously dont know where u get ur info from. Quote (ill) cables for internet, water, electricity, communication. you pay for it but youd have to pay for it anyway so i dont see the problem?
we struggle to get it payed, you dont know if my bills get payed or what i have to do to make sure i pay a little every month just so they dont turn cause its gotten turned off many times and local churches get donations and try to help with money for bills also...you dont know peoples living situations, i worked dam hard for it and no its not always payed for, i owe gas $2,000 dollars and electric $400 right now and on top of that raising children. trying to figure out everyday if we'll have the money for the next bill or food. me and my family help each other, with our hard working money we make sure we feed our children and help each other out and make sacrifices for each other. i am lucky to have a wonderful close family that many dont have and that i'm grateful for.
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| ill |
Date: Wednesday, 20/May/09, 10:24 AM | Message # 38 |
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Quote (LadyChinita) i seriously dont know where u get ur info from what are you on about my info?
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| Menace |
Date: Wednesday, 20/May/09, 10:26 AM | Message # 39 |
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Heads
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Quote (ill) yes because you are part of the country you pay bills everywhere nothing is done for free as i see you have an image of the Jacobin "nation-state" you don't see the universality of the human race and your argument that other "countries" don't supply shit to the people fails because there are hundreds of factors that must be presented to why they can't if we have lived in a fair world where people take care of their own backyard maybe 3rd world countries wouldn't be in the stance they are
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| Chinita |
Date: Wednesday, 20/May/09, 10:28 AM | Message # 40 |
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Heads
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Quote (ill) what are you on about my info?
what? 
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| ill |
Date: Wednesday, 20/May/09, 10:29 AM | Message # 41 |
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Quote (Menace) don't supply shit to the people fails lol wheree did i say that
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| ill |
Date: Wednesday, 20/May/09, 10:30 AM | Message # 42 |
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you said i dont know where i get my info... where do i get my info on what. you starting chatting poo about 40 people to a class and kids obssesed with drugs then said my sources are bad haha
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| Menace |
Date: Wednesday, 20/May/09, 10:35 AM | Message # 43 |
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Heads
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Quote (ill) the opportunities it gives you..? you have it easier then a larrrrge amount of people in the world Quote (ill) thats what i mean you take them for granted, you think of free speech as a basic right but in countries you can get killed for expressing the wrong opinion, Quote (ill) you dont like it? go live somewhere else. this is your whole argument in defending the nation-state and this implies that
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| ill |
Date: Wednesday, 20/May/09, 10:38 AM | Message # 44 |
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Emcees
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suppying a RIGHT is different from physical thing, free speech is easy to give, a new road isnt
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| Menace |
Date: Wednesday, 20/May/09, 10:45 AM | Message # 45 |
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Heads
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Quote (ill) suppying a RIGHT is different from physical thing, free speech is easy to give, a new road isnt when your country ceases to stand in the way of world progress maybe the road will be created and maybe some others from your own country will walk on it you don't understand Ill that STATES go always for world supremacy they are afraid of other people getting stronger because their own people gonna go there this was the whole premise of the fucking COLD WAR man
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