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New Discovery: Pyramids that pre-date Egypt by 5000 years
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| ThaScience |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Aug/09, 9:45 PM | Message # 1 |
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A STRUCTURE thought to be the world's oldest building, nearly twice the age of the great pyramids of Egypt, has been discovered. The rectangular stone ziggurat under the sea off the coast of Japan could be the first evidence of a previously unknown Stone Age civilisation, say archeologists. The monument is 600ft wide and 90ft high and has been dated to at least 8000BC. The oldest pyramid in Egypt, the Step Pyramid at Saqqara, was constructed more than 5,000 years later. The structure off Yonaguni, a small island southwest of Okinawa, was first discovered 75ft underwater by scuba divers 10 years ago and locals believed it was a natural phenomenon. Professor Masaki Kimura, a geologist at Ryukyu University in Okinawa, was the first scientist to investigate the site and has concluded that the mysterious five-layer structure was man-made. "The object has not been manufactured by nature. If that had been the case, one would expect debris from erosion to have collected around the site, but there are no rock fragments there," he said. 
 In the following weeks and months, Japan’s archaeological community joined the feeding-frenzy of discovery. Trained professionals formed a healthy alliance with the enthusiasts who first made the find. In a progressive spirit of mutual respect an working alliance, academics and amateurs joined forces to set an example of cooperation for the rest of the world. Their common cause soon bore rich fruit. In september, not far from the shore of the island of Yonaguni, more then 300 airline miles south from Okinawa, they found a gigantic, pyramidal structure in 100 feet of water. In what appeared to be a ceremonial center of broad promenades and flanking pylons, the gargantuan building measures 240 feet long. Exceptionally clear sub-surface clarity, with 100 foot visibility a common factor, allowed for thorough photographic documentation, both still photography and video. These images provided the basis of japan’s leading headlines for more than a year. Yet, not a word about the Okinawa discovery reached the US public, until the magazine, “Ancient American” broke the news last spring. Since that scoop, only the CNN network televised a report about Japan’s underwater city. Nothing about it has been mentioned in any of the nation’s other archaeology publications, not even in any of our daily newspapers. One would imagine that such a mind-boggling find would be the most exciting piece of news an archaeologist could possibly hope to learn. Even so, outside of the “Ancient American” and CNN’s single report, the pall of silence covering all the facts about Okinawa’s structures screens them from view more effectively then their location at the bottom of the sea. Why? How can this appalling neglect persist in the face of a discovery of such unparalleled magnitude? At the risk of accusations of paranoia, one might conclude that a real conspiracy of managed information dominates America’s well-springs of public knowledge. http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/phikent/japan/japan2.html
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| Menace |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Aug/09, 9:54 PM | Message # 2 |
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it wasn't confirmed that was man made this is a load of bollocks people love the zing and the fuzz that archeologist says that it isn't proven yet some geologists actually proved they are natural formations but nobody looks into that everybody loves Aliens and lost civilizations  we gonna see what this actually is after more study
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| ThaScience |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Aug/09, 9:56 PM | Message # 3 |
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huh?
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| Menace |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Aug/09, 10:00 PM | Message # 4 |
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yes it was proven the structures are natural formations check this
http://www.robertschoch.net/Enigmat....0CT.htm
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| ThaScience |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Aug/09, 10:07 PM | Message # 5 |
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BS, I dont no why your saying this is fake and it was naturally made under the sea.. your link is bs as well cos he barly came to any conclusions after 2 visits. You got serious problems if you think this story is fake. The giants is a funny thread, but if you think for one second that man didnt make this 8000 years ago then you should give up.
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| Menace |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Aug/09, 10:12 PM | Message # 6 |
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Quote (ThaScience) ut if you think for one second that man didnt make this 8000 years ago then you should give up.
the sandstones that make up the Yonaguni formation "contain numerous well-defined, parallel bedding planes along which the layers easily separate. The rocks of this group are also criss-crossed by numerous sets of parallel and vertical (relative to the horizontal bedding planes of the rocks) joints and fractures. Yonaguni lies in an earthquake-prone region; such earthquakes tend to fracture the rocks in a regular manner. The northeast coast of Yonaguni there are regular formations similar to those seen at the Monument.
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| ThaScience |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Aug/09, 10:14 PM | Message # 7 |
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Quote (Menace) the sandstones that make up the Yonaguni formation "contain numerous well-defined, parallel bedding planes along which the layers easily separate. The rocks of this group are also criss-crossed by numerous sets of parallel and vertical (relative to the horizontal bedding planes of the rocks) joints and fractures. Yonaguni lies in an earthquake-prone region; such earthquakes tend to fracture the rocks in a regular manner. The northeast coast of Yonaguni there are regular formations similar to those seen at the Monument. umm ok, well your allowed your opinion.. thanks for your input.
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| Menace |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Aug/09, 10:19 PM | Message # 8 |
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Quote (ThaScience) umm ok, well your allowed your opinion.. thanks for your input. it's not a opinion is geological discovery geology is a science  archeologists don't know what that is they didn't approve of this theory so to go saying that these are man made is crazy while on the other hand geologists the people suited to study rocks and such things concluded that they are natural formations LOL buenos dias it's 5 in the morning and I'm going to work  ( i am really going to work tough )
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| ThaScience |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Aug/09, 10:22 PM | Message # 9 |
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Lets just remid everyone that 1. Dennis aka Menace, was born in Egypt
2. Take another look at that first pic, he thinks it was not man but the ocean that carved those stones.
3. Just google "japanese pyramids fake" etc, and see what comes up.... Nothing. /End Thread Bravo to the Japanese. 
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| Lord Meth |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Aug/09, 10:53 PM | Message # 10 |
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[quote=ThaScience]Lets just remid everyone that
1. Dennis aka Menace, was born in Egypt
2. Take another look at that first pic, he thinks it was not man but the ocean that carved those stones.
3. Just google "japanese pyramids fake" etc, and see what comes up.... Nothing.
/End Thread
Bravo to the Japanese.[/quote] lol anyways......
I think thats a pretty interesting article...Ive been reading stuff on the web about like Aliens or watever coming to Earth in the past and helped humans build the Ancient Pyramids of Egypt...Scientist say that given the circumstances humans couldnt possibly built the pyramids without some super advance technology...Idk if this might be true for the pyramid underwater..but its something to keep your imagination wondering lol Jedi Mind Tricks
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| eboyd |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Aug/09, 11:22 PM | Message # 11 |
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Quote (ThaScience) Lets just remid everyone that 1. Dennis aka Menace, was born in Egypt 2. Take another look at that first pic, he thinks it was not man but the ocean that carved those stones. 3. Just google "japanese pyramids fake" etc, and see what comes up.... Nothing. /End Thread Bravo to the Japanese. Google: The Most Reliable Source IN THE WORLD!!!!!!
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| EmSeeD |
Date: Wednesday, 05/Aug/09, 0:49 AM | Message # 12 |
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they found this a while ago, but claims like these come up all the time, it usually turns out its not man made, who knows, i can't say for sure coz i've heard about so many other things like this that turned out to just come from nature
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| ThaScience |
Date: Wednesday, 05/Aug/09, 10:24 AM | Message # 13 |
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Quote (Lord Meth) anyways......
I think thats a pretty interesting article...Ive been reading stuff on the web about like Aliens or watever coming to Earth in the past and helped humans build the Ancient Pyramids of Egypt...Scientist say that given the circumstances humans couldnt possibly built the pyramids without some super advance technology...Idk if this might be true for the pyramid underwater..but its something to keep your imagination wondering lol Jedi Mind Tricks This has NOTHING to do with aliens etc, this is a man made pyramid that was made 5000 years before the Egyptians and its not even known about, so I thought I would share the info. Bringing up aliens and the fact they built the pyramids is just theorys from people who cant except the fact that the first dynastys in Egypt were Black and they built great buildings. But now that there is complete evidence to say that something similar was built 5000 yrs before, people like dennis gets upset and biased. If he woud claim that man built this 20 or 200 years ago and just put it there I would accept his opinion abit more, but NO. He says the ocean carved out those pyramids. Quote (eboyd) Google: The Most Reliable Source IN THE WORLD!!!!!! rofl You know what I mean, google it, and some article etc should come up.. but its a known fact that they were real, im suprised no one is saying "wow, coolio dude, amazing" instead, its just ignorence, probably Jealousy. This has nothing to do with Atlantis, Aliens etc
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| eboyd |
Date: Wednesday, 05/Aug/09, 5:43 PM | Message # 14 |
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It isn't a known fact. I brought this up to my dad when you posted and he said he was reading into this 10 years ago and it was quite known that this was debunked as a natural structure as well. Most people that know about this believe that it was natural in fact. You are basing this completely on "look! It looks man made so it must be!" That is the same fallacy that religious folks try to pawn off on atheists. That is possibly acceptable, but this is science and that is completely unscientific and simply faith based. You can't pawn a faith based observation off on a scientific study. There has been no proof presented other than how pretty the structures are that shows that they are man made. The fact is that 1. The structures are one solid piece of material which makes it very unlikely that it was man made because carving that big of a structure is very difficult 2. There are no marks that indicate it was man made. Humans have a tendency to not be very discrete. If we make something we usually want people to know in some way and even if we don't, perfection as such is hard to come by. Now to be fair, markings can erode over the years, especially underwater and it is quite possible, though difficult, that it was carved from one stone, so yes, it is possible that it's man made, however, the evidence leans heavily in the opposite direction. Also, to add to the probability that it is naturally made, there are many unbelievably gorgeous and complex structures underwater and even in nature outside of that which look man made but are not. Look at crystals for example. Again, this isn't irrefutable proof, however, it is much more plausible that it was created naturally. I have noticed people of faith often can't grasp that concept. When arguing with someone who is religious I usually end up getting the "just look at it. It must be..." argument or the "well you have no solid proof so I must be correct" argument which are both serious and rudimentary fallacies.
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| ilikebacon3000 |
Date: Thursday, 06/Aug/09, 1:42 AM | Message # 15 |
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Quote (Menace) yes it was proven the structures are natural formations check this
Menace hate to say it but that seems like complete bullshit lol
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