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whether it be for better or for worse Lil Wayne will be remembered for many years. hes done way to much to sinply fall between the cracks. And how could you feel justified in giving coltrane an edge over mozart and i not somehow for kurupt? you said immediately afterwords that it would come down to opinion. how would it come down to an opinion for one and not another? That makes no sense to me what so ever.
you are completely misunderstanding what i'm saying. SKILL-WISE we can objectively say that Coltrane, Mozart, etc. are better. the only reason it is hard to gauge with Mozart is that they are so close and you really need to evaluate what both did and we don't have much direct knowledge of Mozart, only what is written about him, whereas people alive today actually knew Coltrane. the comparison between Lil Wayne and Mozart, or even Kurupt and Mozart, however, is a much easier skill difference to calculate. whether or not you give preference to Kurupt is your business. it has nothing to do with his skill-level as a musician, which can be quantified.
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I also agree that Mozart was a fuckin Prodigy, started out super young and was playing for kings in his early years. Well Lil wayne wrote his first rap at age 8, according to Wiki. Does this make him a better rapper, not in the slightest but shows the love for music was present at a very early age.
the difference is that anyone can play an instrument or rap or whatever. very few can master an instrument, however, especially at the age of 5.
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If they leave lil wayne out of hip hop history because he was also meshed in with pop culture, I feel they would be cheating the students because he is cemented in hip hop history. can't deny it. it be like ignoring racists in the civil rights movement because people dont appreciate there culture. all of history must be taught, not just the parts we love and that goes for music as well
you don't seem to understand how music history works then. if you have a nearby college or attend a college, ask a jazz history teacher why they teach more about Duke Ellington than Cab Calloway or why they don't even mention Branford Marsalis but Wynton is the main focus of contemporary jazz history.
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Personally neither, but i would prolly pick the wonderful world song.
exactly. and guess what. Wonderful World, while it is one of the most recognized songs in American history, struggled to chart when it came out, while, in the same year, "Hey Jude" (the song i posted by The Beatles) was the #1 hit. that goes to show that we do not, in fact, remember the big hits more than anything. Jimi Hendrix was a one hit wonder in the US. now he's recognized as the greatest guitarist of all time in many circles. John Coltrane never had a single hit. he's considered the greatest saxophonist to ever live. it's not about hits. never was, never will be.
made this myself 
Hollywood here i come
