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| eboyd |
Date: Saturday, 20/Feb/10, 5:32 PM | Message # 16 |
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Quote (Menace) Oh my pupil Erik began to study what his master gave him  
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| Lord_Meth |
Date: Saturday, 20/Feb/10, 6:00 PM | Message # 17 |
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Quote (Acekat00o) Change the course of the spanish civil war in 1936 ... That is all
Wat happened in that? I been thinking about this for a long time.....I would go further back in history and change something......something further into the time of human history....I would either prevent the begin of government/organized law OR travel back in time myself and rather than interfere with the timeline OBSERVE it and learn why things turned out the way they did and figure out when the idea of civilization got skewered and tainted with corrupt leaders....But personally I think thats just human nature..to want to feel superior...almost like God...lol think about it? We want to be as close to God as possible so why not put our species in that type of position? Since we have a higher sense of perception than any other species we let it go to our heads and crowned ourselves as the gifts from God himself.....idk Im rambling now......maybe its the booze (but I dont drink)  Too many damn books and movies I tell ya
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| eboyd |
Date: Saturday, 20/Feb/10, 6:19 PM | Message # 18 |
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Quote (Lord_Meth) Wat happened in that?
Quote (Lord_Meth) prevent the begin of government/organized law in that case, you would agree with Ace. the Spanish Civil War was a time where communist and fascist armies in Spain were at war from 1936 to 1939 and the anarchists slipped under the radar and took control of a large portion of the country until they were crushed by Francisco Franco and the fascists. this was called the Spanish Revolution. it was the most large scale example of anarchism in action in the history of the planet and it was a glorious time for Spain, in spite of a raging civil war going on simultaneously. Quote (Lord_Meth) personally I think thats just human nature..to want to feel superior...almost like God...lol think about it? no that isn't. that's greed. it has been bred into us, it isn't something that just natural occurs in our bodily chemistry. to paraphrase Noam Chomsky, humans have the capacity for a lot of things, some good some bad. Quote (Lord_Meth) We want to be as close to God as possible so why not put our species in that type of position? sorry, but i beg to differ as i do not believe in God. also, 80% of Swedish and Japanese people, 60% of Germans (i think that was the projected number) and 40% of Brits, as well as 90% of the scientific community fall in line with me on this. we want freedom and a fair opportunity at equality. that is all.
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| HateMainstreamMusic |
Date: Saturday, 20/Feb/10, 6:34 PM | Message # 19 |
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Quote (eboyd) in that case, you would agree with Ace. the Spanish Civil War was a time where communist and fascist armies in Spain were at war from 1936 to 1939 and the anarchists slipped under the radar and took control of a large portion of the country until they were crushed by Francisco Franco and the fascists. this was called the Spanish Revolution. it was the most large scale example of anarchism in action in the history of the planet and it was a glorious time for Spain, in spite of a raging civil war going on simultaneously.
so you're saying that was a good example of anarchy... interesting... i've been reading more on what anarchy is and how the US State is disgusting... than examples of when anarchy worked... i'm not saying there will be tons of examples... but could you tell me some more positive examples of anarchism in effect? btw anarchists on this site... they're are two very good comics with major anarchist themes... V For Vendetta (the movie didn't show the anarchist theme much but the graphic novel did).... and Anarky... a comic book character who tries to promote his ideas on things, mainly anarchism...
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| Lord_Meth |
Date: Saturday, 20/Feb/10, 6:35 PM | Message # 20 |
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Quote (eboyd) sorry, but i beg to differ as i do not believe in God. also, 80% of Swedish and Japanese people, 60% of Germans (i think that was the projected number) and 40% of Brits, as well as 90% of the scientific community fall in line with me on this. we want freedom and a fair opportunity at equality. that is all.
I may not kno as much as u about a topic as this but I can safely assume a majority of the planet believes in a higher power. Within this majority were the leaders of our society and surprisingly species. Im not saying I believe in this ideal but from a guy who enjoys hearing conspiracy theories (tho only a few I believe) this would potentially be considered one if it gained steam. but idk wat Im talking about...just an idea tho
But yea I would definately stop the beginning of government tho.....Knowing that humanity has the power to do good as you said....the bad far out weighs it
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| EmSeeD |
Date: Saturday, 20/Feb/10, 6:36 PM | Message # 21 |
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Quote (EmSeeD) if i could go back there's a lot of decisions i'd change about my own life, there's a lot of things i didn't do that i should have done, things i did that i shouldn't have done, things i didn't say that i should have said and things i said that i shouldn't have said, i often think about that stuff wishing i could change it, i know its not that healthy though sorry
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| Menace |
Date: Saturday, 20/Feb/10, 8:49 PM | Message # 22 |
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Quote (HateMainstreamMusic) so you're saying that was a good example of anarchy... interesting... i've been reading more on what anarchy is and how the US State is disgusting... than examples of when anarchy worked... i'm not saying there will be tons of examples... but could you tell me some more positive examples of anarchism in effect? Well for the beginning check these 2 main famous examples . Number one is Anarchist Spain which most of Spain worked on anarchist principles from 1936 to 1939 the second is the Free Territory also called Anarchist Ukraine which worked on anarchist principles from 1918 to 1921 . These both examples were crushed by brute military force. Spanish anarchism was crushed by the fascists and Ukrainian anarchism was crushed by Lenin's Soviet Union . Some simplified information here :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Territory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_Catalonia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Revolution Also if you are interested in quick answers regarding anarchist practical theory or if you have some questions regarding anarchism check the Anarchist FAQ at this link :
http://www.infoshop.org/page/AnAnarchistFAQ If you have further theoretical , philosophical or even practical questions about anarchism don't hesitate to ask or create a thread about it .
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| HateMainstreamMusic |
Date: Saturday, 20/Feb/10, 9:07 PM | Message # 23 |
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thanks for all of that especially that
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| Menace |
Date: Saturday, 20/Feb/10, 9:27 PM | Message # 24 |
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No problem , always doing my duty Quote (HateMainstreamMusic) btw anarchists on this site... they're are two very good comics with major anarchist themes... V For Vendetta (the movie didn't show the anarchist theme much but the graphic novel did).... and Anarky... a comic book character who tries to promote his ideas on things, mainly anarchism... Oh i love the "V For Vendetta" comic books . Alan Moore is a self proclaimed anarchist that's not a big secret . I love when V says to that statue of Justice i recall he says something like " i found a new love and her name is Anarchy" or something like that its superbly done . Oh i love this interview by Alan Moore especially addressing anarchism .
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| eboyd |
Date: Saturday, 20/Feb/10, 11:00 PM | Message # 25 |
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Quote (Lord_Meth) I may not kno as much as u about a topic as this but I can safely assume a majority of the planet believes in a higher power. this would be a correct assumption. believing in God, much like believing in a flat earth, is merely intuitive. atheism and belief in a spherical earth is actually counter-intuitive. we're just now uncovering things that show that the likelihood of a God's existence isn't very high. give earth a few decades and you will see that there will be a sharp increase of atheists, agnostics and atheistic Buddhists and an equally sharp decrease in religious folks. i'm not trying to deconvert you, just making (possibly unfounded) predictions. Quote (Lord_Meth) Within this majority were the leaders of our society and surprisingly species. Im not saying I believe in this ideal but from a guy who enjoys hearing conspiracy theories (tho only a few I believe) this would potentially be considered one if it gained steam. my head hurts now  Quote (Lord_Meth) Knowing that humanity has the power to do good as you said....the bad far out weighs it this is not at all correct. the goodness of humanity far outweighs the bad. people in general are good in that they subconsciously follow the golden rule (do unto others as you expect to be done upon you). there are a small 2% (give or take) that do more bad than good and unfortunately they screw it up for the other 98%. Quote (Menace) Well for the beginning check these 2 main famous examples . Number one is Anarchist Spain which most of Spain worked on anarchist principles from 1936 to 1939 the second is the Free Territory also called Anarchist Ukraine which worked on anarchist principles from 1918 to 1921 . These both examples were crushed by brute military force. Spanish anarchism was crushed by the fascists and Ukrainian anarchism was crushed by Lenin's Soviet Union . i'll add the Israeli Kibbutzim of the Third Aliyah (however, don't take into consideration any of the kibbutzim post-1948/erection of the State of Israel. the founding of the State changed the kibbutzim for the worse) and the Paris Commune to this list. these are small scale examples of anarchism. also, some even smaller scale examples of my particular conception of anarchism working in a capitalist environment are found in the many collectives around the world including FaSinPat and the 200+ other recovered factories in Argentina, the democratic schools working on the Sudbury and Summerhill models, etc. but i recommend you do yourself a favor and quickly read this wikipedia page to better understand what we are referring to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism anyways, we need to curtail the political convo here soon or i'm going to have to split this thread and move the split thread to the knowledge/political section.
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| Lord_Meth |
Date: Sunday, 21/Feb/10, 0:05 AM | Message # 26 |
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Quote (eboyd) this would be a correct assumption. believing in God, much like believing in a flat earth, is merely intuitive. atheism and belief in a spherical earth is actually counter-intuitive. we're just now uncovering things that show that the likelihood of a God's existence isn't very high. give earth a few decades and you will see that there will be a sharp increase of atheists, agnostics and atheistic Buddhists and an equally sharp decrease in religious folks. i'm not trying to deconvert you, just making (possibly unfounded) predictions.
I believe you. I thought about this the other day about more atheist beginning to spark up around the world. I would rather live in a world with atheist......Overly religious folks bug me......They seem to WANT the end to come....awiting judgement day....Is it mainly because they see life as a journey to salvation and judgement as some sort of grand catastrophe? Its confusing
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| eboyd |
Date: Sunday, 21/Feb/10, 3:12 AM | Message # 27 |
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Quote (Lord_Meth) I believe you. I thought about this the other day about more atheist beginning to spark up around the world. I would rather live in a world with atheist......Overly religious folks bug me......They seem to WANT the end to come....awiting judgement day i feel you Quote (Lord_Meth) Is it mainly because they see life as a journey to salvation and judgement as some sort of grand catastrophe? i would assume so. they seem to have bought into a grandiose fantasy that this world comes secondary to their servitude to their lord and savior and so they will do anything that they've been taught will get them closer to him. i mean it's cool with me if someone is a Christian and puts his/her servitude to Christ/God at #1, no matter how delusional i think it is, but when a person basically disregards human rights (ie: no gay marriage, atheist persecution, etc.) and ignores scientific reasoning that would otherwise prevent harm, such a person upsets me as well.
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| HateMainstreamMusic |
Date: Sunday, 21/Feb/10, 9:15 AM | Message # 28 |
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Quote (eboyd) anyways, we need to curtail the political convo here soon or i'm going to have to split this thread and move the split thread to the knowledge/political section.
yeah anyway.... back to topic... When i was in 8th grade... this new latino girl moved into our town and starting going to our school... now EVERYONE was talking about how hot she was... atleast in her grade...(7th) that was until she stole someones ipod... stole some other stuff... and people found out she smoked cigarettes(which was a big deal to me and everyone else because we were in middleschool) now ever 7th grader started making fun of her.. and by making fun of her i mean ANYWHERE she went she got made fun of... yelling her name across the hall... blocking her way across the hall... throwing things at her... and talking terribly about her... now if someone is like that stealing stuff doing bad shit at that age... then i would try to help them out not what they did... and it didn't help that i had a humongous crush on her then (lol) and i mean humongous... now if could turn back time... i would've not only beat one of those faggots down... i would've tried to help her out... oh well i was a bitch and didn't do anything i kept to myself... :'(
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| Lord_Meth |
Date: Sunday, 21/Feb/10, 12:15 PM | Message # 29 |
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Quote (eboyd) i would assume so. they seem to have bought into a grandiose fantasy that this world comes secondary to their servitude to their lord and savior and so they will do anything that they've been taught will get them closer to him. i mean it's cool with me if someone is a Christian and puts his/her servitude to Christ/God at #1, no matter how delusional i think it is, but when a person basically disregards human rights (ie: no gay marriage, atheist persecution, etc.) and ignores scientific reasoning that would otherwise prevent harm, such a person upsets me as well.
Exactly and I believe in a higher power as well but I still use science fundamentals and logic and reasoning for nature's order. Nature's purpose is another thing which invovles God and the "grand scheme" of things. I personally believe (like Bacon said once before) wat ever happens after death is completely out of our control so we can only live life on Earth now and when that day comes...it just comes
Since this topic is about changing time do anybody think things happen for a reason? or just by pure chance or a chain of events lead to an inevitable event that cant be "stopped" but only prevented?
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| El_Matador |
Date: Sunday, 21/Feb/10, 1:07 PM | Message # 30 |
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Would you like to rewind time? Here's what you need  
MENACE 2 JOKER: Go back to Mexico you damn spic
JOKER 2 MENACE: Shut up you fake nigga your a damn sand nigger not a full nigger 
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