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Does the story of Metal predict what could happen to hip hop
EmSeeD Date: Monday, 08/Dec/08, 4:34 PM | Message # 1

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 http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v= HWLsAsKbSVU

check out the documentary Heavy: The Story of Metal. I see a lot of similarities between metal of that time and real hip hop of today. people were saying metal was dying and it was being taken over by punk music. metal had been driven to the underground, but it evolved with new talented bands and a famous club that only played metal and revived it. is this what will or should happen with hip hop?

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EmSeeD Date: Monday, 08/Dec/08, 4:37 PM | Message # 2

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Menace Date: Monday, 08/Dec/08, 4:52 PM | Message # 3

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 well considering that both cultural movements have the same social and political roots yes that could happen both cultures have the tendencie to push it to the limit and both cultural movements adhere to some principles not to say both movements came from the same seed so my answer is pretty much yes considering all rock and all her sub genres
EmSeeD Date: Monday, 08/Dec/08, 5:40 PM | Message # 4

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well considering that both cultural movements have the same social and political roots yes that could happen both cultures have the tendencie to push it to the limit and both cultural movements adhere to some principles not to say both movements came from the same seed so my answer is pretty much yes considering all rock and all her sub genres

yeah except metal is rebellion without a cause but hip hop rebellion has a cause

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Menace Date: Monday, 08/Dec/08, 6:35 PM | Message # 5

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yeah except metal is rebellion without a cause but hip hop rebellion has a cause

yes but as i said all rock genres anarcho punk rock was famous in the mid 70's and in the 80's the punk rockers were anarchists they held libertarian and anarchists values and they sent the same messages

eboyd_ Date: Monday, 08/Dec/08, 10:06 PM | Message # 6

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 No, you need to focus on the socio-political climate surrounding hip hop atm, not what some other genre did. I think in the very near future a very militant form of hip hop will take over. The climates right now are becoming more and more reminiscent of the 60's when political awareness was at an all time high. Plus more blacks are interested in politics in the US now that Obama's been elected.
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No, you need to focus on the socio-political climate surrounding hip hop atm, not what some other genre did. I think in the very near future a very militant form of hip hop will take over. The climates right now are becoming more and more reminiscent of the 60's when political awareness was at an all time high. Plus more blacks are interested in politics in the US now that Obama's been elected.

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Menace Date: Monday, 08/Dec/08, 10:15 PM | Message # 8

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yeah except metal is rebellion without a cause but hip hop rebellion has a cause

and yes u are right there but hip hop rebellion haves a problem most dont know to identify their beliefs most of them are Marxists and they dont even know it even the ones who are conscious the hip hop community needs to accentuate on their ideologies cause if we dont do that nobody will notice us that whats lacks between us and the movements of the 60's clear ideologies

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EmSeeD Date: Monday, 08/Dec/08, 10:40 PM | Message # 10

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No, you need to focus on the socio-political climate surrounding hip hop atm, not what some other genre did. I think in the very near future a very militant form of hip hop will take over. The climates right now are becoming more and more reminiscent of the 60's when political awareness was at an all time high. Plus more blacks are interested in politics in the US now that Obama's been elected.

thats true indeed. what i meant was how metal was dying and it went underground, but i came back up. anyway yeah i hope there will be more militant political hip hop and there probably will be. but idk how long it will last who knows. if think if that did happen though, and that kind of hip hop got popular labels will want to cash in on it, someone will have to cross over and hip hop will be back in the mainstream again.

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Menace Date: Monday, 08/Dec/08, 10:48 PM | Message # 11

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thats true indeed. what i meant was how metal was dying and it went underground, but i came back up. anyway yeah i hope there will be more militant political hip hop and there probably will be. but idk how long it will last who knows. if think if that did happen though, and that kind of hip hop got popular labels will want to cash in on it, someone will have to cross over and hip hop will be back in the mainstream again.

i dont know how that will be considering its the peak of the capitalist consumer culture and materialism and considering that the entertainment business is still a business and its led by money music is gettin more ignorant after the day passes

EmSeeD Date: Monday, 08/Dec/08, 11:39 PM | Message # 12

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i dont know how that will be considering its the peak of the capitalist consumer culture and materialism and considering that the entertainment business is still a business and its led by money music is gettin more ignorant after the day passes

lol true but i think thats coz so much real hip hop just doesn't make good radio singles that make people wanna dance anymore. they'd rather play catchy shit that sucks then play talented music that isn't catchy.

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eboyd_ Date: Tuesday, 09/Dec/08, 2:23 AM | Message # 13

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 Trust me. As we delve further into a depression, people will care less about dancing and care more about how they will make money to buy groceries. They want stuff that will fuel their hatred towards the government.
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