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Lord_Meth Date: Saturday, 21/Feb/09, 6:16 PM | Message # 31

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Mcs and Rappers should be judged on skill versus mainstream popularity or mainstream hate
Back in the day...U could be the richest flyest brother on the mic (Big Daddy Kane minus the rich) but as long as u had skill, thats all that matters

I had a change of recently

We gotta stop hating on MCs cuz they are mainstream. Ludacris is clearly a mainstream artist, but he has sooooo much insane mic skill, he can rip Canibus in 5 different languages. Luda is a dope MC, one that underground and mainstream fans can accept and respect. Theater of the Mind had the songs to get appeal from the mainstream (Nasty Girl, What Them Girls Like, One More Drink), but the overall concept of the album was a straight up exhibition of his lyricism. Even on those mainstream songs, he was still dropping dope punchlines that made yo face turn and twist. That nigga is dope.

Even Lil Wayne was like that, but he clearly sold out and started rapping lazy cuz he knew watever he did was going platnium regardless. Same with Snoop, LL Cool J, Andre 3000.

So we as a group and a movement, need to destroy the boundry between MAINSTREAM and UNDERGROUND fans and start judging artist solely on their lyrical ability, and thats it. No more questions asked.
Dont be surprised if I say the new Eminem CD might be dope, cuz u kno wat?
Eminem hasnt disappointed YET.. So this new CD Im definately gonna be looking out for cuz Im anticipating some more of his dope lyrics, same with Dre (minus HIS lyrics) and Jay-Z..Im actually hoping Jay-Z turns things around and shows some of his old spunk from Reasonable Doubt.

So thats my case. If anybody wanna hate, go head, ur entitled to ur critism


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EmSeeD Date: Saturday, 21/Feb/09, 6:24 PM | Message # 32

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We gotta stop hating on MCs cuz they are mainstream. Ludacris is clearly a mainstream artist, but he has sooooo much insane mic skill, he can rip Canibus in 5 different languages.

surprised surprised surprised surprised

well he doesn't impress me thats for sure.


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EmSeeD Date: Saturday, 21/Feb/09, 6:29 PM | Message # 33

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So we as a group and a movement, need to destroy the boundry between MAINSTREAM and UNDERGROUND

we're trying to promote real hip hop, whether mainstream or underground i don't care as long as its real hip hop. but we're also trying to promote those dope artists often from the underground which are unfairly overlooked by the mainstream. we want bring balance so that we get songs with actually talent to be just as popular and get as much exposure as those other shitty pop songs which don't have skill.


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PNobleDaLyricist Date: Saturday, 21/Feb/09, 6:38 PM | Message # 34

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Ludacris is clearly a mainstream artist, but he has sooooo much insane mic skill, he can rip Canibus in 5 different languages

i like ludacris alot but CANIBUS???

lol idk i really dont

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and i agree wit wat u say n but CANIBUS??? lol


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Lord_Meth Date: Saturday, 21/Feb/09, 6:40 PM | Message # 35

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we're trying to promote real hip hop, whether mainstream or underground i don't care as long as its real hip hop. but we're also trying to promote those dope artists often from the underground which are unfairly overlooked by the mainstream. we want bring balance so that we get songs with actually talent to be just as popular and get as much exposure as those other shitty pop songs which don't have skill.

We r gonna have balance, people in this group r extremely tolerant to others musical taste (some more than others) but it wont effect others look on Canibus versus Nas

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i like ludacris alot but CANIBUS???
lol idk i really dont

yea thats an exaggeration but Im trying to prove a point


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Chinita Date: Saturday, 21/Feb/09, 6:51 PM | Message # 36

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we're trying to promote real hip hop, whether mainstream or underground i don't care as long as its real hip hop. but we're also trying to promote those dope artists often from the underground which are unfairly overlooked by the mainstream. we want bring balance so that we get songs with actually talent to be just as popular and get as much exposure as those other shitty pop songs which don't have skill.

well put..


EmSeeD Date: Saturday, 21/Feb/09, 6:53 PM | Message # 37

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We r gonna have balance, people in this group r extremely tolerant to others musical taste (some more than others) but it wont effect others look on Canibus versus Nas

not balance on the site, balance everywhere, radio t.v. etc.


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Chinita Date: Saturday, 21/Feb/09, 6:53 PM | Message # 38

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i'm saying it's not right to call an artist out for some thing and let the other one go for the same thing

very true


PNobleDaLyricist Date: Saturday, 21/Feb/09, 6:55 PM | Message # 39

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yea thats an exaggeration but Im trying to prove a point

i agree with it i really do but CANIBUS??? lol luda is dope doe i bought his album its a 4.5 out of 5 but afta wat he did 2 LL im not say n any one can rip canibus on wax


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Lord_Meth Date: Saturday, 21/Feb/09, 7:04 PM | Message # 40

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not balance on the site, balance everywhere, radio t.v. etc.

Lets be literal, we cant control that. WAT we can control is how things r ran on the group and site, and Im making it an imprtant issue


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Lord_Meth Date: Saturday, 21/Feb/09, 7:05 PM | Message # 41

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i agree with it i really do but CANIBUS??? lol luda is dope doe i bought his album its a 4.5 out of 5 but afta wat he did 2 LL im not say n any one can rip canibus on wax

I kno but I was using it as an example to show how good he is

Im a hypocrite, I kno for a fact Canibus would slaughter Luda but I was just saying in a abstract way hes dope


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Menace Date: Saturday, 21/Feb/09, 7:14 PM | Message # 42

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you people don't know the difference between mainstreem and underground this discussion is a waste

EmSeeD Date: Saturday, 21/Feb/09, 7:15 PM | Message # 43

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Lets be [logical?], we cant control that. WAT we can control is how things r ran on the group and site, and Im making it an imprtant issue

well thats what we're about, its one small step at a time, you can ring up radio stations, call in on certain t.v. shows and request songs etc. anything to promote real hip hop.


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EmSeeD Date: Saturday, 21/Feb/09, 7:17 PM | Message # 44

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LyricalContent Date: Saturday, 21/Feb/09, 10:04 PM | Message # 45

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look i'm tired of talkin about it, cause some people in here just want people to see things there way and if you don't then they gone say you don't know this and you don't know that because you don't agree with their BS, and my biggest pet peeve in life is when people try to make me look like i don't know what the hell i'm talkin about, so before i say something i don't have no business i'm just gonna leave it alone see i'm tired of people thinking and acting like they know everything and and trying to down play everyone like they stupid man let me stop cause it's making me mad just typing this

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