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eboyd Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 9:37 PM | Message # 16

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Siwooot, I'm not talking pop charts, I'm talking hip hop/R&B charts. I don't remember where I read this, but it was posted somewhere. Some group of people made a commemorative chart of early hip hop single and/or album success. It was an actual official source though. And besides, the only one you looked at was EB&R. The main people that I am referring to that did this were PE and EPMD. Those groups topped all sorts of charts. Also, Das EFX, Pete Rock & CL Smooth, etc.

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EmSeeD Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 9:42 PM | Message # 17

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btw since when is 3 not close to number 1? wacko

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eboyd Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 9:44 PM | Message # 18

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No, I fully understood your question Meth. And if I understood it you are expecting me to know what you are implying which you did not state explicitly so you can't expect that. What I think you are implying is why if it's been such an issue did it not get taken care of then. I answered that question within my statement in just the same fashion you asked the question though (by implying).

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Lord_Meth Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 9:44 PM | Message # 19

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LMAO if my album made it to number 3 on the Billboards I would be happy too

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Lord_Meth Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 9:46 PM | Message # 20

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No, I fully understood your question Meth. And if I understood it you are expecting me to know what you are implying which you did not state explicitly so you can't expect that. What I think you are implying is why if it's been such an issue did it not get taken care of then. I answered that question within my statement in just the same fashion you asked the question though (by implying).

No I meant if its been a issue then why wasnt it brought to attention like it is now
thats wat i meant to say


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eboyd Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 9:47 PM | Message # 21

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I said 3 at BEST and I didn't say that it wasn't close. I was saying they always got beat out by the real shit.

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EmSeeD Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 9:48 PM | Message # 22

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Siwooot, I'm not talking pop charts, I'm talking hip hop/R&B charts. I don't remember where I read this, but it was posted somewhere. Some group of people made a commemorative chart of early hip hop single and/or album success. It was an actual official source though. And besides, the only one you looked at was EB&R. The main people that I am referring to that did this were PE and EPMD. Those groups topped all sorts of charts. Also, Das EFX, Pete Rock & CL Smooth, etc.

i did look at some others and most of them said they went around #8 or 6 etc, this was big daddy kane, tone loc and house of pain.

but Public Enemy's It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back did go number 1. i don't know about Pete Rocks & CL Smooths singles but two later albums did go into the top 10, but idk if this is the peak position or what it doesn't say.


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eboyd Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 9:49 PM | Message # 23

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Once again, Meth, I answered that question. It wasn't a real concern until a few years ago.

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eboyd Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 9:52 PM | Message # 24

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Mark, were you looking at pop charts or hip hop charts? How many pop rap tracks beat those tracks out? That's my point. Yes, of course other music was beating it out. Hip hop hadn't reached the popularity it has now yet at that point.

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EmSeeD Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 9:52 PM | Message # 25

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Mark, were you looking at pop charts or hip hop charts? How many pop rap tracks beat those tracks out? That's my point. Yes, of course other music was beating it out. Hip hop hadn't reached the popularity it has now yet at that point.

i was looking at the hip hop/r&b charts. but idk if its the peak position or what


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Lord_Meth Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 9:52 PM | Message # 26

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Once again, Meth, I answered that question. It wasn't a real concern until a few years ago.

I kno I was just clearing up my question, but yea......


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eboyd Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 9:56 PM | Message # 27

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Hold up Mark, I'll check it.

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Uncharted Date: Sunday, 07/Jun/09, 11:30 PM | Message # 28

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so what you think that was called back then ?? mainstream popular music too in fact House music was the shit back then the problem is not that we listen to popular music or mainstream music the problem is the music itself is tore down as an art music is not an art now days music is a product for consumption by the decades music becomes less and less creative

i know im not just trying to say house wasnt famous in the 80s and 90s.I know it was big esp. being a native form the birth place of house(chicago) and its still pretty big in the chi.Im saying the he wouldnt listen to shit like "cant touch this", "hammer dont hurt","word to your mother" or w/e the hell it is...


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Furious_Pryme Date: Monday, 08/Jun/09, 0:38 AM | Message # 29

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because back then corporate monopolization didn't exist back then there were neighborhood shows at TV giving air play to everyone why you think there was such diversity back then ?? why you think the whole diversity of hip hop came from those days ?? people weren't tied up people made their music as Tech said back then the artists made music not the dude in a suit and a tie think deeper Meth check the structure of the whole music industry

Right...it has nothing to do with the fact the people back then
was alot better then the mainstreem artist of 2day...so once again
its all some corps fault lmao!.
Menace Date: Monday, 08/Jun/09, 10:11 AM | Message # 30

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Right...it has nothing to do with the fact the people back then
was alot better then the mainstreem artist of 2day...so once again
its all some corps fault lmao!.

EVERYBODY BACK THEN WAS ALLOWED AIRPLAY THE BAD ARTISTS OR THE GOOD ARTISTS i worked whit these people corporate executives makes the music not the artists they say bang and the artists follow back then corporate executives made a clause in the artists contract stating that the artist has freedom over the music he produces while now days the artists are told what to play and if the executive doesn't feel it they change it


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