I'm gonna watch this tomorrow, but here's one thing I've kind of wondered: Why don't most young black and Latino kids today listen to real shit? There are a few exceptions, such as myself (Well, I'm 19, but whatever) but it's weird though. I'm talking 13-16 year olds here, btw. Hence why I can't really include myself.

Then how come white people have no problem finding real shit? Are you saying they see through it??

hip hop isn't hurting the black community, it's hurting the WACK community. the REAL hip hop that is.

yeah but he's talking about the pop rap

No, I don't think hip hop can be solely to blame for the portrayal of the "black community". I think it is a large melting pot of reasons. A lot of it is ignorance, conditioning to an ignorant form of living, and a lot of it is being pressured by our societal standards into fitting these stereotypes which have already been painted, even before hip hop music came out. I understand that many people from the black community try to live up to certain expectations which these "role model thugs" set, and it can cause a lot of problems, but where I live, I see just as many hispanics, asians, whites, etc. who do the same thing. The only reason why it may seem like there are more black people falling into that cycle is because there is more focus on them, both from the media and from North American society in general. It truly is a societal problem. True "hip hop" at it's essence does ANYTHING BUT hurt the black community though, I mean you got public awareness speakers like KRS for just one example, who educate youth through hip hop, and it is also offers a multitide of recreational activities for the kids to partake in, in order to stay out of trouble. If anything, true hip hop actually does wonders for the black community. It educates them, opens up their minds, breaks down the barriers of ignorance they have, and self empowers them. I think no matter what you will have stupid human beings buying in to the life style of commercialism, money cars and naked, make up caked 13 year olds, but we can' t just blame it on the black community. every human being is to blame, but unfortunatly in our society, we tend to make it a "black problem" and put the focus on them.. If anything, the commercialized rap is hurting all communities, as it only seperates instead of teaching us all to live in harmony. But true conscious hip hop? No way is that hurting any community. It may still have the same stigmas and stereotypes attached to it in the eyes of somebody ignorant, but it works wonders when attempting to educate somebody, and education is a good thing for the most part. I think before we blame rap, we must blame the social conditions around these communities that we have all created through out history, and blame the human response to a hostile environment, conditioning, and societal pressure to live up to or fit certain stereotypes. Of course, Solja Boy saying "supa man that ho" through the radio into a bunch of impressionable youths ear drums won't help, but then again, I don't hear the radio stations putting on Public Enemy records and spreading awareness either,
yet black communities are still labelled as being like the very same Solja Boy? The more I think of it, it seems like the bloody elite rulers of the 2 countries WANT the black community to be portrayed like this. Just another manipulative propagandaist tactic to take the focus off of how crappy our country is run, how they go to war and kill kids for oil and resources, how they get richer and the majority gets poorer. It's almost like they created this "enemy" which is the "commercial rap fueled black community" to channel the rest of societies anger, fear and doubt away from there hands, so they can continue sitting back getting rich and doing nothing to truly prevent this social deprevation. And plus, you give a man a dollar and he wants a million, so it's almost like a vicious cycle now this consumerist commercialized way of life.... At the end of the day though, true hip hop music is a message. A very powerful weapon which can be, and is often used to shed light on these very attrocities, and so I rest my rant with my answer that true hip hop, regardless how it is portrayed, is probably one of the most effective tools the "Black community" or any community for that matter really has, and does the opposite of truly hurting them, regardless of how they are portrayed. Mainstream commercial crap? Don't just blame the black people, every race/ethnic group plays a role, and many people from each group do the opposite. Blame the treacherous and lie infused foundation in which our countries have "grown" from. Blame the greed inside a human beings heart. Do not blame a skin colour.

BEAUTIFULLY PUT! i agree 100% especially on the highlighted portions!!!
you will fit in just right here glad to see a new member posting welcome Panther!
btw, are you an anarchist? a lot of us share those views with you and happen to also be anarchists if so.
oh, and i would like to ask permission to post this as a blog if possible. are you cool with that?

Finally a message board where there is more discussion then there is immaturity

Thank you very much, I am glad to be here. Finally a message board where there is more discussion then there is immaturity! Haha. Now you don't see that everyday. But so far this place seems really chill and that's good with me.

To answer your questions, until a body of government is found that will truely reflect the people, and where corruption and greed will not be present, then I consider myself anarchistic to a high degree! The more I read and learn and draw parallels, the more anarchistic I become. Great to know there are some cool people here who share these similar views.

And yes, you may use whatever you like out of that for your blog. Thank you for asking me and for agreeing with what I said, and thank you for the kind welcome.

I will definately be posting here more often!

i think you and menace are gonna get along lol, you should check out the Knowledge/Political section

lol just wait until you disagree with majority they all piss themselves and stop replying

i dunno if music is hurting the community its probaly not doing any favours but there are far bigger factors and it would be exagerrated if you blame even a small amaount of the bad behaviour in the community to it

founder of this site so a compliment on the site is a compliment to me as well)