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Snoop Dogg is WAY TOO OVERRATED
NtG Date: Sunday, 24/Oct/10, 7:52 PM | Message # 1

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Is it his looks, or his voice that make him seem like he's good? I really dont understand why Snoop is so popular. Is it because he is a "pimp" and smokes weed that makes him cool? Cuz lyrically he isnt all that great not to mention his flow where he just says three words and just pauses for a while after it.

"Bitch please
Now what you need to do is
Hand my coat
And roll me some dope
Different strokes,
for different folks
Oh, you like settin' Niggas up and gettin' them loc's
Oh, cute little bitch with a whole lot hard
Shit get thick when the lights get dark
She said she got some lick for me
Worked about 200 G's and 30 keys
Now check this out Dre
Snap if I don't move
Then a Nigga like me
Shit I don't lose
But you know me
Dogg I'm movin'
Ain't nothin' to it, but to get the groovin'
You've been waitin' on a Nigga like me
To take your chance and ride with men and beat up the pussy
A victim off the circumstance
That's the devil
They always wanna dance
See we grow up with a bang
I'm tryin' to work this cold thing
And take this whole thing
I get the money everywhere that I go
I bust a bitch and take here money for sure
I get the money everywhere that I go
I bust a bitch and take here money for sure"

"Imagine you was up on top of this shit
Imagine if the bitches could stay off this dick
I mean imagine we said fuck this shit
Imagine if my niggaz got together and tow up this bitch, yeah"

Anyone else in the same boat as me?


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Uncharted Date: Sunday, 24/Oct/10, 8:42 PM | Message # 2

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^^^you just now realized this???? i cant believe im the only one in this group that actually realizes some of the corniest of gangsta rap.....smh

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NtG Date: Sunday, 24/Oct/10, 8:50 PM | Message # 3

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you just now realized this????

no, i just now made a topic about it. I've thought this way for a while, I realized when people told me doggystyle was a good album, but for some reason i couldnt get into it. Its cuz snoop sucks LMAO


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Uncharted Date: Sunday, 24/Oct/10, 8:54 PM | Message # 4

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yea he does, atleast his beat choice on doggystyle and blue carpet treatment was good but all his other albums are all around ass especailly the ones with no limit

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EmSeeD Date: Sunday, 24/Oct/10, 11:40 PM | Message # 5

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Snoop Dogg was only liked by hip hop heads for his early work, to me Doggystyle is a classic album and his first song released Deep Cover is a classic song. Snoop was very unique when he came out and had a unique voice and persona. But there's no doubt its the commercialism which pushed his career, his persona made him very marketable and the only reason he gets anywhere these days is by selling out. At the time of Doggystyle Snoops lyrics were decent, they weren't as lyrical as G Rap or Rakim but they were quite decent and i'd say his lyrics were actually more lyrical or at least on par with guys like Masta Ace or even ATCQ in 93, definitely better than Phife Dawg imo.

Snoop is also a good freestyler off the top, i'd say he's a better off the top freestyler than KRS-One who sucks at freestyling compared to the real good freestylers out there. But Snoops lyrics never got better from there, actually i think they got worse but i think he's stayed on top by being the biggest sellout in rap. After Doggystyle every album that followed from Snoop was considered a disappointment, all the way up until R&G which had huge mainstream success, but even that wasn't liked by a lot of his fans who wanted the gangsta rap of 93, so Snoop did come back with Tha Blue Carpet Treatment which was considered his best album since Doggystyle. But then unfortunatley Snoop followed that with more wack shit on Ego Trippin, i think Snoop thought it was because of his age or because he hadn't moved with the time because what he did on his latest album Malice In Wonderland was even worse, he sold out even further by doing modern day mainstream shit with soulja boy etc changing his sound and going back on what he had said about soulja boy in 06 when he came out.

But yeah Snoop is very overrated by the mainstream who do not get to hear real or underground hip hop, so they don't know any better, i know this was definitely the case with me, i didn't know about most of the emcee's i know about now so i used to think Snoop was the greatest until i discovered more hip hop.

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"Imagine you was up on top of this shit
Imagine if the bitches could stay off this dick
I mean imagine we said fuck this shit
Imagine if my niggaz got together and tow up this bitch, yeah"

that was ghostwritten by The D.O.C. :(


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Ratmn Date: Sunday, 24/Oct/10, 11:49 PM | Message # 6

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Do you realize that Snoop Dogg pretty much invented all corniness about g-funk?
Before it was corny, he invented it. Him and Eazy-E are by far the inventors of all corny on the west side scene. It wasn't up until the California underground movement that the West Coast was seen as a place with cultural growth rather than a bunch of illiterate gangbangers.

Look at all albums before Doggystyle and you'll get me. This is coming from a West Side fan that knows the hard ass truth. And, for me, Doggystyle and Tha Blue Carpet Treatment are his best work, besides the things he did with Tha Dogg Pound early years

Though, his label is doing great on recovering that dying West scene.



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abanks47 Date: Monday, 25/Oct/10, 1:12 PM | Message # 7

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doggystyle is classic. what made him popular too fans back in the day IMO was his lack of fear against the prodimently east coast ran rap game and the fact that doggystyle was one of the greatest albums in westcoast history, arguabley in hip hop period.

im with you in todays sense though. cant rhyme for shit and raps about typical shit, 'bitches' weed and....... well thats about it.

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Before it was corny, he invented it. Him and Eazy-E are by far the inventors of all corny on the west side scene. It wasn't up until the California underground movement that the West Coast was seen as a place with cultural growth rather than a bunch of illiterate gangbangers.

you might be reaching here, there were a bunch of acts out while snoop was doing his thing which could be considered underground (off the top pharcyde, freestyle sellowship, heiro (combined with popular solo acts from del and sould of mischief) and i wouldn't say he invented it. i think if anything his self and death row over stayed there welcome and played it the fuck out.


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TheWatcher Date: Monday, 25/Oct/10, 1:43 PM | Message # 8

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o, i just now made a topic about it. I've thought this way for a while, I realized when people told me doggystyle was a good album, but for some reason i couldnt get into it. Its cuz snoop sucks LMAO

Doggystyle is a classic, you just have to take it for what it is. It's not Super lyrical, neither is the Chronic for that matter but it's the production that makes them dope. Snoop Dogg's never been "all that" lyrically, he was half-decent but then got whack, but his style was really unique when he came out like Emseed said, and I don't think him rapping on Doggystyle took anything from it, lol.

Lord_Meth Date: Monday, 25/Oct/10, 6:25 PM | Message # 9

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Snoop isnt a "lyrical" MC tho so I can understand that. He's much like Slick Rick and Method Man when it comes to "persona" they just have that swag and appeal that carries their careers. Tho I do agree about him being extremely corny and being a sellout, but I REFUSE to take away his impact on Hip Hop with Doggystyle and G-Funk. Lol that's too much of a title to take away and besides, he earned it.
Now today, the same thing is pretty happening with Wiz Khalifah. He reminds me alot of Snoop because of his persona and weed smoking appeal. I think he's gonna be the next Snoop for my generation.


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abanks47 Date: Monday, 25/Oct/10, 9:19 PM | Message # 10

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He's much like Slick Rick and Method Man

SMH


A WELL DRESSED SKELETON SLOWLY CUTS YOUR THROAT.

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“those who consider themselves the most adamant adherents of “real” hip-hop can also be the least knowledgeable.” –Adilifu Nama; an excert from his perception of Nas’s “Genesis”

EmSeeD Date: Monday, 25/Oct/10, 9:40 PM | Message # 11

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snoop was very much like slick rick but idk about method man

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you might be reaching here, there were a bunch of acts out while snoop was doing his thing which could be considered underground (off the top pharcyde, freestyle sellowship, heiro

i think he meant snoop started the corny rapping about bitches and weed, the pharcyde and freestyle fellowship never rapped about those things like snoop did.


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abanks47 Date: Monday, 25/Oct/10, 10:44 PM | Message # 12

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i think he meant snoop started the corny rapping about bitches and weed, the pharcyde and freestyle fellowship never rapped about those things like snoop did

i was responding to his saying that cali underground movement but i was stating they were already here and banging classics before snoop dippity dog

prolly should have quoted more of it, my bad


A WELL DRESSED SKELETON SLOWLY CUTS YOUR THROAT.

"I Have No Fear Whatsoever of Anybody or Anything" -Malcolm X

“those who consider themselves the most adamant adherents of “real” hip-hop can also be the least knowledgeable.” –Adilifu Nama; an excert from his perception of Nas’s “Genesis”

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