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Emcee vs Rapper? Is It Based Only On Bias?

Adam

Date: Friday, 19/Nov/10, 12:40 PM | Message # 16

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#2 rappers tend to work crowds way better than MCs because they got showmanship. People will pay for tickets well over 100$ to see these guys from afar and to see the way they work the crowd and do so in a way that most "MCs" cannot.

you said they were the same thing, but one being able to move the crowd more than the other does not set them as equal.

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Date: Friday, 19/Nov/10, 2:12 PM | Message # 17

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i agree with Greeny on everything pretty much, but where i think he's being misunderstood by abanks is this: it isn't "Artist A is an emcee and Artist B is a rapper", but rather you need to take on a case by case (song by song, album by album, etc.) basis. for example, in most of Eminem's work he's an emcee, but in some of his stuff, especially more recently, he's been a rapper rapping to pop music. and that brings me to my next point. artists who rap within the context of hip hop mostly can be categorized specifically as emcees. this just means that most of what they do is hip hop. the same goes for those who rap but not within hip hop context. they are mainly rappers (or, in Zach De La Rocha's case, rapper/metal singer or whatever the hell they are called lol) who rap with other forms of music. there are actual aspects of their rapping that make them hip hop or not as well. for example, if Soulja Boy spit an acappella and so did Nas, it would be likely that SB's wouldn't be hip hop but Nas's would. the subject matter and content have a limited role, but the biggest thing is simply the vibe that the emcee is setting off, and this is where, in fact, it gets very subjective.

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Date: Friday, 19/Nov/10, 2:26 PM | Message # 18

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I'm aware of that, but since most of those who like neorap don't like hip hop, and those who like hip hop usually don't like neorap, I'm thinking it's because it's nothing like hip hop. Those who listen to Lil Wayne for example don't give two shits about history, art, anything at all really, just Lil Wayne and his affiliates. Eminem's fanbase is mainly 14 years old girls, and they don't care how good his music is, they're in love.

BTW, 'is' doesn't always mean 'equals'. You assumed MC and rapper is the same because and MC is a rapper. That doesn't mean every rapper is an emcee, because according to the hypothesis or whatever I brought up, MC is a rapper that does hip hop. No, this isn't the best theory, because it doesn't avoid all subjectivity, because you there's a grey area when it comes to deciding what is hip hop and what is rap. I did have this argument once, and I'll see how I avoided the potential bias.

Also, I'm sure you don't think everything that has a rap line in it is hip hop. So there is a line somewhere that divides rap and hip hop, and it's not based on opinions, it's factual.

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