Then this:

And kill it with this:

With that you kill the three normal complains about hip hop. Lack of originality, putting down woman as hoes, and dumb lyrics

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Personally, i would give them

Blu & Exile
Fashawn
Binary Star
Cunninlynguists
Eminem

most of them have heard Eminem, and he's one of the artists they often complain about.

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there are two different reactions i get from people who don't like hip hop in respect to Em: "i hate hip hop, except Eminem", in which case they already know who Em is and like him, or "i hate hip hop, especially Eminem". the people i speak to that hate hip hop are most often the latter if they only know Em's newer music, and the former if they are around my age and grew up on Eminem. either way, they have almost all heard his music before, and so there is no need to introduce anyone to Eminem.

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"True poetry can communicate before it is understood"

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For me I suppose it was NY icons like KRS, BDK, G Rap, Jeru, and especially Brand Nubian, that pulled my attention from the westcoast, and widened my horizon. Then I moved to the Native Tongues sound and that jazzy style, and then I started digging for other unique gems.

I tried to show my stubborn father Pete Rock & CL Smooth, but nothing seems to overwrite his negative convictions. Once people already are neglecting hip hop and portraying it, it's next to impossible to convert them, even if they're hip hop heads without knowing it.

what do you mean by "hipsters"? when i think of hipsters i'm thinking of the skinny jeans and tight shirt wearing, geeked out with glasses without lenses and tape in the middle of the frame of them as a fashion statement rather than a function, 16 and 17 year old kids who listen to nothing but KiD CuDi and similar artists. if that, those are EXACTLY the people who will listen to those artists mentioned above and dig that shit, ESPECIALLY Tribe. hipsters LOVE Q-Tip. i know A LOT of people who are FAAAAAAR from hip hop heads and actually hate hip hop but they LOVE Tribe. maybe it's because you aren't from the US or the era when Tribe was around, but ATCQ was HUGE in the US back in the day. they were one of the most successful mainstream hip hop acts of all time. they've gone either gold or platinum with all of their albums, including 2 gold albums (Instinctive Travels, The Love Movement) and 3 platinum albums (Low End Theory, Midnight Marauders, Beats, Rhymes & Life). to be that successful you need to appeal to a much broader audience than simply hip hop heads. the same can be said for The Pharcyde who went platinum with Bizarre Ride, and to a lesser extent Gangstarr and Pete Rock & CL Smooth, as they both have gone gold, though never platinum. as a matter of fact, back when i was a kid i listened to nothing but Limp Bizkit, Korn, etc., and it was specifically A Tribe Called Quest, along with Common and Eric B & Rakim, that actually got me into hip hop in the first place. ok, obviously i am a hip hop head now lol, but the point is that people tend to get into Tribe and the groups you mentioned easily if they aren't already interested in hip hop. it also depends on what kind of music that person listens to though. for example, if they like metal, i am not going to get them to listen to some mellow, jazzy shit. instead i'll show them Jedi Mind Tricks, or El-P, or Antipop Consortium. some shit like that. unless they listen to "metal", aka fake ass media-manipulated, corny pop metal, in which case they are gay and probably childish and don't deserve to have their ears blessed with the wonderful goodness that is hip hop music lmao!

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erikboyd60@hotmail.com

"True poetry can communicate before it is understood"

-T.S. Eliot

battle record:

7-0-0

I said hipsters hate jazz. That doesn't only go for hipsters though, I guess I meant that the majority of people in general are narrow minded when it comes to music other than the genres I mentioned.

When I played Tribe, they laughed and asked what the fuck that was. Also when one of Guru's albums were playing in the lounge of this hotel, they were confused. Because, to them, jazz is this elegant thing and rap is this ghetto shit, they don't just mix.
It's frustrating. Those who hate jazz, I don't understand. Those few I know who like jazz are fanatic christians, and also got prejudices about hip hop.

Coptic Soldier (for example: In The Air Tonight, Sherbrook. Burnt Churches, Lquid company)

Bliss N Esso (pretty much any of it)

Phatchance (for example: Mountain Of Class, Leaving The Nest, Invisible Queen, Catchy Song)

The Gza (Earlier stuff...like before pro-tools)

Pegz (for example: What would happen, Burn City)

Dumbfoundead (bullets of truth....really well made track + His tracks are for all ages)