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Modern or Soon-to-Be-Considered Classics
ilikebacon3000 Date: Thursday, 15/Sep/11, 11:32 PM | Message # 16

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have we ever thought about how "classic" doesn't have the same defintion that it did several years ago?
it's much harder to make a classic now, because the market is flooded with artists due to the internet. i can't totally speak on the shit, but it seems like before the internet REALLY exploded and became an everyday thing for just about everybody (99 i would think, before then it was more like the shiternet because it took 20 minutes to load a page), as long as you were on a label with a fairly big following or some shit, and if you made a good album, you could attain classic status much easier?
idk, i can't articulate what I'm trying to say very well here... just saying like music is being shared at a much faster rate... if you're going to blow up, it's going to happen damn close to overnight (like in a week or 2) as opposed to blowing up over a 6 month period, and that also means that your time in the limelight will likely be shortened because just as soon as you reach your peak, someone else is going to be coming back up and taking that shit.

it's alot harder to ride a peak than it was before the internet, so it's harder to establish a reign over the game for longer than a few months. i think if the internet wasn't around, and if OFWGKTA managed to blow up without it, they might have stayed in the limelight longer and possibly just gained more respect overall.
but that's kinda far fetched because OFWG made literally all of their connections on the internet for the most part. viral marketing and shit.


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eboyd Date: Friday, 16/Sep/11, 2:48 AM | Message # 17

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In that case, how would you redefine the term classic? As far as I know, you wouldn't redefine the term, you just wouldn't have any more classic albums or at least not as many if that is the case. But I think that if an album does come out that is truly as groundbreaking as, say, Illmatic was, then regardless it will stay at the top and have enough impact to call it a classic. I just think that our culture is too "fast food" (for lack of a better term) nowadays for artists to spend enough time to make a classic album or for people to listen or even care. Also, another reason I think there are so few classic albums today is because few artists care to make a classic album in the mainstream especially. Most artists are out to make hot songs that hit high on the charts today. The rest of their album could be garbage as long as the hit single sells a shit ton of copies on iTunes.

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Isnt that what happened with Jay-Z's Reasonable Doubt?


Idk, who discovered RD years after it had faded into obscurity and called it their favorite album, leading to people deeming it a classic?


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Lord_Meth Date: Friday, 16/Sep/11, 10:10 AM | Message # 18

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In that case, how would you redefine the term classic? As far as I know, you wouldn't redefine the term, you just wouldn't have any more classic albums or at least not as many if that is the case. But I think that if an album does come out that is truly as groundbreaking as, say, Illmatic was, then regardless it will stay at the top and have enough impact to call it a classic.

While I agree with this, should we re-evaluate what we consider a classic to fit in today's culture to accomodate it?
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Idk, who discovered RD years after it had faded into obscurity and called it their favorite album, leading to people deeming it a classic?

It wasn't so much as someone rediscovered it, but I was on YT and some guys were debating on RD and this one guy said didn't anybody even look at RD as a classic until Jay-Z said so on the Blueprint. I would agree with this because I didnt even know about Reasonable Doubt UNTIL I heard that specific line on The Blueprint.


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eboyd Date: Friday, 16/Sep/11, 12:38 PM | Message # 19

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While I agree with this, should we re-evaluate what we consider a classic to fit in today's culture to accomodate it?


Hell no, why would we do that???

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It wasn't so much as someone rediscovered it, but I was on YT and some guys were debating on RD and this one guy said didn't anybody even look at RD as a classic until Jay-Z said so on the Blueprint. I would agree with this because I didnt even know about Reasonable Doubt UNTIL I heard that specific line on The Blueprint.


Meth, you were like 2 years old when RD came out, what makes you think you would remember the reception it got when it came out? Lol


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Lord Meth Date: Friday, 16/Sep/11, 1:03 PM | Message # 20

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Meth, you were like 2 years old when RD came out, what makes you think you would remember the reception it got when it came out? Lol

No dude LOL! I said some guys on YT man lol

Btw I was 4 lol
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