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Furious_Pryme Date: Wednesday, 15/Jul/09, 3:22 AM | Message # 601

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Drapht is better then Big.L & 2pac
eboyd Date: Wednesday, 15/Jul/09, 3:29 AM | Message # 602

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Drapht is better then Big.L & 2pac

maybe Pac, but gtfoh with that Big L shit!


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TheWatcher Date: Wednesday, 15/Jul/09, 9:53 AM | Message # 603

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maybe Pac, but gtfoh with that Big L shit!

Drapht is better than Percee P :p

eboyd Date: Wednesday, 15/Jul/09, 1:25 PM | Message # 604

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Drapht is better than Percee P :p

lol! your mom >>>>>>> Drapht :D


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Lord_Meth Date: Wednesday, 15/Jul/09, 2:58 PM | Message # 605

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your top 10 changes all the time

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who's dosen't change all da time?

I mean seriously lol
2 Pac gets grilled bout being overrated cuz he died and everybody hopped on his ban wagon
But real talk 2 Pac was sick as fuck and thats not bullshitting


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eboyd Date: Wednesday, 15/Jul/09, 6:09 PM | Message # 606

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2pac was dope and it's only the anti-trend idiots that deny that. No one else denies it. However, to call him top 10 all-time (though obviously just opinion) IS overrating him. There are PLENTY of artists who write FAR better than 2pac EVER did, have better delivery, better flow, get on better beats, have more charisma, a better head on their shoulders, etc., but what Pac did have more so than any artist I can think of is the whole package. I highly doubt, however, had he not died at the peak of his popularity that he would have been hailed as a top 10 emcee in the "real hip hop scene" as we call it (however, commercially he was already being dubbed the greatest to ever touch a mic, sort of like Lil Wayne is today). This has happened to all artists that have died. Some end up acheiving the recognition they deserve, some end up getting overrated. Dilla, for example, was actually in Madlib's shadow, believe it or not, when he first started fucking with Stones Throw. Madlib had already gotten fame from the Lootpack. Now people look at it like Madlib is Dilla's disciple. Big L was Lord Finesse's protege and nothing more. Now EVERYONE is like "Big L is like the greatest emcee ever!" and when you ask "so, do you know who Lord Finesse is?" they say "who?" Pun was only big on the underground and with some mainstream cats, probably at about the level Del Tha Funkee Homosapien is known today, Eazy-E was just "that cat that rapped with Dr. Dre back in the day," and Proof was just "that one dude in D12."

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Lord Meth Date: Wednesday, 15/Jul/09, 7:29 PM | Message # 607

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[quote=eboyd]2pac was dope and it's only the anti-trend idiots that deny that. No one else denies it. However, to call him top 10 all-time (though obviously just opinion) IS overrating him. There are PLENTY of artists who write FAR better than 2pac EVER did, have better delivery, better flow, get on better beats, have more charisma, a better head on their shoulders, etc., but what Pac did have more so than any artist I can think of is the whole package. I highly doubt, however, had he not died at the peak of his popularity that he would have been hailed as a top 10 emcee in the "real hip hop scene" as we call it (however, commercially he was already being dubbed the greatest to ever touch a mic, sort of like Lil Wayne is today). This has happened to all artists that have died. Some end up acheiving the recognition they deserve, some end up getting overrated. Dilla, for example, was actually in Madlib's shadow, believe it or not, when he first started fucking with Stones Throw. Madlib had already gotten fame from the Lootpack. Now people look at it like Madlib is Dilla's disciple. Big L was Lord Finesse's protege and nothing more. Now EVERYONE is like "Big L is like the greatest emcee ever!" and when you ask "so, do you know who Lord Finesse is?" they say "who?" Pun was only big on the underground and with some mainstream cats, probably at about the level Del Tha Funkee Homosapien is known today, Eazy-E was just "that cat that rapped with Dr. Dre back in the day," and Proof was just "that one dude in D12." [/quote]

right I feel wat u saying bout cats who get overlooked after death while some get bigger
idk why its like that tho...its kinda sad after u think about it tho....
But Ive been listening to Pac's albums while he was alive and I cant honestly name a MC that deserves to take his spot for a top 10 all-time list
Sure, if he stayed alive longer and put out more work, he would be more acceptable, is it because he died in the 90's thats why people cant accept him?

EmSeeD Date: Wednesday, 15/Jul/09, 8:25 PM | Message # 608

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I mean seriously lol
2 Pac gets grilled bout being overrated cuz he died and everybody hopped on his ban wagon
But real talk 2 Pac was sick as fuck and thats not bullshitting

nah man there's just too many rappers that i would put ahead of him. when you think about all the emcee's out there you can't have him in your top 10.


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Lord Meth Date: Wednesday, 15/Jul/09, 8:38 PM | Message # 609

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[quote=EmSeeD]nah man there's just too many rappers that i would put ahead of him. when you think about all the emcee's out there you can't have him in your top 10. [/quote]

okay name 9 other MCs that deserve to be ahead of him in that kind of list?
Of course automatically:
BDK
Nas
KRS
Rakim
Kool G Rap
Eminem
Common

thats 7 already..give me 2 more who I cant EVEN 100 PERCENT argue against (and I wont put favoritism in front of it, Ill be straight up) to be on that list

Lord Meth Date: Wednesday, 15/Jul/09, 8:52 PM | Message # 610

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[quote=8Diagrams]You just played favoritism, you big dummy.[/quote]

No that isnt favoritism, thats just straight facts, Eminem would literally shit on almost all MCs

while we're at this

Name more MCs who are better than Pac and Eminem that I cant disagree with

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EmSeeD Date: Wednesday, 15/Jul/09, 8:57 PM | Message # 611

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okay name 9 other MCs that deserve to be ahead of him in that kind of list?
Of course automatically:
BDK
Nas
KRS
Rakim
Kool G Rap
Eminem
Common

thats 7 already..give me 2 more who I cant EVEN 100 PERCENT argue against (and I wont put favoritism in front of it, Ill be straight up) to be on that list

the main one's you forgot was Big L & Percee P

and of course we all have our own preferences so a lot of artists i like you probably won't like as much, these are some others that you didn't mention that i'd personally put ahead of him.

Percee P
Big L
Inspectah Deck
Raw Poetic (from Panacea)
AZ
Guru
Big Pun
Killah Priest
Common
Crooked I
DOOM
Notorious B.I.G.
Elzhi
Royce Da 5'9"
Termanology
Jeru Tha Damaja
K-OS
Treach
Joell Ortiz
Ice Cube
J. Flexx
Masta Ace

of course there are many many more i'd add but i know you would disagree with them but these are the ones i'm sure a lot of people would agree with


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Lord_Meth Date: Wednesday, 15/Jul/09, 9:02 PM | Message # 612

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the main one's you forgot was Big L & Percee P

no...not of all-time lol u must have missed Erik's post lol
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2pac was dope and it's only the anti-trend idiots that deny that. No one else denies it. However, to call him top 10 all-time (though obviously just opinion) IS overrating him. There are PLENTY of artists who write FAR better than 2pac EVER did, have better delivery, better flow, get on better beats, have more charisma, a better head on their shoulders, etc., but what Pac did have more so than any artist I can think of is the whole package. I highly doubt, however, had he not died at the peak of his popularity that he would have been hailed as a top 10 emcee in the "real hip hop scene" as we call it (however, commercially he was already being dubbed the greatest to ever touch a mic, sort of like Lil Wayne is today). This has happened to all artists that have died. Some end up acheiving the recognition they deserve, some end up getting overrated. Dilla, for example, was actually in Madlib's shadow, believe it or not, when he first started fucking with Stones Throw. Madlib had already gotten fame from the Lootpack. Now people look at it like Madlib is Dilla's disciple. Big L was Lord Finesse's protege and nothing more. Now EVERYONE is like "Big L is like the greatest emcee ever!" and when you ask "so, do you know who Lord Finesse is?" they say "who?" Pun was only big on the underground and with some mainstream cats, probably at about the level Del Tha Funkee Homosapien is known today, Eazy-E was just "that cat that rapped with Dr. Dre back in the day," and Proof was just "that one dude in D12."

read that

but from those that u named Ill easily give you:
Masta Ace
but no way in hell Percee P can be in a all-time greatest list with only ONE album LMAO thats worse than Biggie being on that list LMAO
same with Big L

but other than that Pac is easily better than that whole list...him and Jeru thats arguable cuz they both had good releases in that 94-95 period
you wouldnt be wrong if u picked either rapper

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Common
Eminem

I already said those 2 for top all time lol


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Lord_Meth Date: Wednesday, 15/Jul/09, 9:03 PM | Message # 613

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Straight fact??? That sounds extremely subjective to me.

well give me some reasons to think otherwise


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Lord_Meth Date: Wednesday, 15/Jul/09, 9:03 PM | Message # 614

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Masta Ace, MC Shan, Ras Kass, IT, Percee P, INS the Rebel, GZA...IDK who else.

as I said to EmSeed Masta Ace..but MC Shan?!?!?!? LMFAO stfu you lose automatically with that pick


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EmSeeD Date: Wednesday, 15/Jul/09, 9:05 PM | Message # 615

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no...not of all-time lol u must have missed Erik's post lol

lol eriks post seemed to support what i said maybe you misread it, erik is saying tupac is overrated and wouldn't be in a top 10 if he hadn't died


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