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eboyd |
Date: Wednesday, 04/Mar/09, 9:04 PM | Message # 106 |
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yeah, it's cool. i do it all the time. when you get into conversations like this big words are necessary and i very often use the wrong word knowing what word i meant but accidentally mistaking it for another. that's why i love Dictionary.com
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eboyd |
Date: Wednesday, 04/Mar/09, 9:09 PM | Message # 107 |
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so no more debates? you guys tired? COME ON! I WANT MORE! I'M DISAPPOINTED!!!!
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Menace |
Date: Wednesday, 04/Mar/09, 9:11 PM | Message # 108 |
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Quote (eboyd) btw, i didn't realize it on the other thread, but you misinterpreted my use of the term "power" there. i didn't mean "empowerment" in a positive sense, i meant power in the same sense that politicians/corporations impose their power on the masses. ohh that changes everything then ok
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eboyd |
Date: Wednesday, 04/Mar/09, 9:13 PM | Message # 109 |
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yeah np. see, misinterpretations happen all the time and, as far as i can see, are the sole reason people can't agree on anything and it is all because of the ambiguity of language.
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ill |
Date: Thursday, 05/Mar/09, 4:14 PM | Message # 110 |
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Quote (eboyd) so no more debates? you guys tired? COME ON! I WANT MORE! I'M DISAPPOINTED!!!! people here take the debate shit toooo serious, it gets offensive way too quick
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eboyd |
Date: Thursday, 05/Mar/09, 4:15 PM | Message # 111 |
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i agree. i still pwn at debating though
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I_Guy |
Date: Friday, 06/Mar/09, 0:27 AM | Message # 112 |
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Like Erik, I’ve been trying to avoid posting in this thread as well, but sometimes you just can’t let people get away with shit. Plus it feel good. After reading the entire thread all the way through again, I have concluded one thing. Religion needs to take a seat, and let logic, reason, rationality, sense, freedom, and good judgment reign. Think about it this way, religion has had the wheel for 2,000 years, let rationalists have their turn. Pensmoke, they do not see you as inferior, they see your beliefs as inferior, an old world understanding of the world. They see your beliefs as inferior because the men who created the source of your beliefs are intellectually inferior. It’s not a matter of personal distaste of one another it’s simply a disagreement, and disagreements have their negative attributes (which are usually identified as disrespect or spiteful). Just because someone disagrees with you and does so strongly, does not make them disrespectful. It makes them passionate about their beliefs. You may not see, but there is a big difference between disrespect and pure unacceptance of your view. You confuse them and every time someone disagrees strongly, you take it as disrespect thinking they treat you as inferior. That shit’s in the game. It’s apart of disagreement. Obviously people view other people's disagreeing beliefs as inferior because they believe they are wrong, therefore making the wrong inferior to the right. Also, don’t think we’re a gang of ignorant religion bashing disrespectful skeptics. We’re not all in cahoots with each other on the sneak tip trying to mob on your ass all the time. We all simply see the holes in your arguments and strike at them. If all of our responses appear to be of the same thought, it’s not because it’s the thought of our “gang-up-on-pen” group, it’s because maybe you are wrong. It is typical for someone who is wrong to suspect everyone and call his opponents a group of conspirers. It’s all an attempt to avoid the reality, it’s a form of denial. You can’t believe you are wrong so you confabulate some bullshit conspiracy to pit everyone against you in an attempt to disguise why and how you are wrong. -Typical of a religious fella. We don’t “gang up” on you because we dislike you or think you’re inferior, we “gang up” on you maybe because we simply see that at times you are wrong. I believe you may have some sort of complex that pits you against the world all the time. It’s the “me against the world complex.” After all, you do call yourself the "professional outcast." Also, quit bringing personal shit into this, like past lifestyles, what you’ve been through, and your lyrical ability (you are mad dope on the mic) but it’s all completely irrelevant to all of the arguments on here. By doing that, it's a clear display of something unreasonable. A desperate debater will resort to irrelevant shit in an attempt to gain ground. It’s a bit childish for a “dinosaur.” Last, check this. You would say that generally everyone who is active on this forum is somewhat intelligent for the fact that they see through corporate mindless mainstream rap, right. Isn’t it interesting that the majority of these intelligent and somewhat intelligent youths doubt god and organized religion all together. (perhaps and undeveloped idea, but consider it). And why is it that people get so upset and personal about religious discussions. It’s because religion is a simple representation of their intelligence.
We all know that each of our end is near; the question is do we accept the end of our living existence, or do we accept our existence as dead men...
Message edited by I_Guy - Friday, 06/Mar/09, 1:00 AM
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EmSeeD |
Date: Friday, 06/Mar/09, 0:45 AM | Message # 113 |
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Quote (11thPlague) You said you came to talk about hip hop so talk about hip hop and dont post religious threads cause for some reason or another it gets everyone upset god believers and non believers no dude this is the off topic section so you can talk about anything you want
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EmSeeD |
Date: Friday, 06/Mar/09, 0:53 AM | Message # 114 |
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Quote (Pensmoke) I have never seen such a united group of arrogant know-it-alls in my life. lol You watch all these one-sided "debunking the bible" type videos and believe every word. Blissfully unaware of the very real agenda behind these videos and books. The new atheist "progressive" agenda is as real as the gay agenda. im guessing you never watched that documentary, i don't appreciate being called an arrogant no it all. im not one sided coz i've read plenty of apologectics stuff, i've gone to many different churches, i go to a methodist church but i've been going to catholic school's all my life, but i found that documentary menace put up to be completely fair and unbiased, the guy even explained how he was raised as a christian etc. Quote (eboyd) Wait, hold up. You can very easily send a kid to a private school or, idk... CHURCH if you want them to learn about Christianity and you are complaining that it isn't taught at public schools anymore? I'm sorry that I feel more confident in the theory of evolution than divine creation, but neither is shoved down my throat and that is one of the few things that the piece of shit public school system has created that is actually good. I am not forced to accept one or the other, but rather given both ideas from an informative rather than argumentative standpoint. I don't believe in God and you do. I respect that. But when you are telling me I should believe in God, that is where I get offended. yeah i went to catholic schools despite the fact i wasn't even catholic lol. gay marriage will not be forced down your kids no throat either.
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LyricalContent |
Date: Friday, 06/Mar/09, 0:57 AM | Message # 115 |
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Quote (I_Guy) I have concluded one thing. Religion needs to take a seat, and let logic, reason, rationality, sense, freedom, and good judgment reign. Think about it this way, religion has had the wheel for 2,000 years, let rationalists have their turn. lol you a funny dude for real you said that like you have that kind of authority or something, let's just be real about it man if they haven't figure out a way to us a back seat by now they won't be able to, you can logic and reason all you want WE AIN'T GOING NO WHERE see the fact of the matter is this ya'll been trying to demean and demoralize us all this time and you still can't get rid of us, and you won't get rid of us, so go ahaed form your alliance form your lil weapons IT AIN'T GOING TO WORK
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God 1 Cor 1:18 http: //www.youtube.com/user/thelastgreatone The grass withers and the flowers fall, but the Word of our God shall stand forever is:40,8
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EmSeeD |
Date: Friday, 06/Mar/09, 0:59 AM | Message # 116 |
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Quote (LyricalContent) lol you a funny dude for real you said that like you have that kind of authority or something, let's just be real about it man if they haven't figure out a way to us a back seat by now they won't be able to, you can logic and reason all you want WE AIN'T GOING NO WHERE see the fact of the matter is this ya'll been trying to demean and demoralize us all this time and you still can't get rid of us, and you won't get rid of us, so go ahaed form your alliance form your lil weapons IT AIN'T GOING TO WORK lol man you really think the people that run the world are religious? nah they use religion as a tool to control people they don't truly believe in God at all.
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L.G.O |
Date: Friday, 06/Mar/09, 1:03 AM | Message # 117 |
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[quote=EmSeeD]lol man you really think the people that run the world are religious? nah they use religion as a tool to control people they don't truly believe in God at all. [/quote] i ain't talking about them I'm talking about those of us that's real with it, we here to stay and we won't shut up ether now deal with
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I_Guy |
Date: Friday, 06/Mar/09, 1:05 AM | Message # 118 |
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Quote (LyricalContent) lol you a funny dude for real you said that like you have that kind of authority or something, let's just be real about it man if they haven't figure out a way to us a back seat by now they won't be able to, you can logic and reason all you want WE AIN'T GOING NO WHERE see the fact of the matter is this ya'll been trying to demean and demoralize us all this time and you still can't get rid of us, and you won't get rid of us, so go ahead form your alliance form your lil weapons IT AIN'T GOING TO WORK I was joking. I didn't want to get into this because I know I can't help but get offensive. I'm respectful when it comes to anything else, but when it comes to religion I DON'T GIVE A FUCK. Religion is a delusion, and there should be no tolerance for a delusion. Almost all of mankind is clinically completely insane and doesn't even know it (but of course how would they). That shit horrifies me. I assume nobody would tolerate their 27 year old son believing in Santa Claus would they? Imagine the mental stability of that 27 year old. Just the same, I don't tolerate humanity believing in religion. So immediately I get pissed when someone tells me they believe in religion. I disrespect them and offend them, because they offend me when they take part in this epidemic delusion that deceives mankind as a whole into being less than what they could be. Religion inhibits mankind’s growth. I'd burn every bible in the world if I could. In fact, I wouldn't mind the cozy feeling of a burning pile of bibles warming my nuts right now. Now I know it's fucked up to disrespect, but what needs to be understood is that I am not disrespecting anyone as a person, I am disrespecting them as a representative of religion, and ultimately god. I don't approve in either so therefore you are shut out on that subject. When we defend a belief shared by others we become a representative of that belief. Unfortunately, some people take it personally. So when I insult a religious person, I am actually insulting his belief, not him. Because it is his belief that disgust me not the actual person. If anything, I am disappointed in that person.
We all know that each of our end is near; the question is do we accept the end of our living existence, or do we accept our existence as dead men...
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LyricalContent |
Date: Friday, 06/Mar/09, 1:23 AM | Message # 119 |
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Quote (I_Guy) when it comes to religion I DON'T GIVE A FUCK. Religion is a delusion, and there should be no tolerance for a delusion according to who??? you??? and who you think you suppose to be??? see that's the problem with cats like you, you don't know what the hell you be talking about, I got experience in this, what do you have? but your so called logic, I tryed this personally I didn't get my info off the internet somewhere like you, see the one thing that always rule out opinions is experience see cause you talking some book you read or some documentary you watched I'm speaking from life experience with this
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God 1 Cor 1:18 http: //www.youtube.com/user/thelastgreatone The grass withers and the flowers fall, but the Word of our God shall stand forever is:40,8
Message edited by LyricalContent - Friday, 06/Mar/09, 1:25 AM
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I_Guy |
Date: Friday, 06/Mar/09, 1:24 AM | Message # 120 |
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Quote (LyricalContent) according to who??? you??? and who you think you suppose to be??? see that's the problem with cats like you, you don't know what the hell you be talking about, I got experience in this, what do you have? but your so called logic, I tryed this personally I didn't get my info off the internet somewhere like you, see the one thing that always rule out opinions is experience And what do you have that I don't? A five pound paperback of bullshit? =ashes.
We all know that each of our end is near; the question is do we accept the end of our living existence, or do we accept our existence as dead men...
Message edited by I_Guy - Friday, 06/Mar/09, 1:25 AM
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