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emseed Date: Sunday, 05/Jul/09, 4:31 PM | Message # 46

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[quote=sodr2].we eat the bread and wine "symbolizing" Christ's body and blood...[/quote]

oh so you admit its a metaphor than

ilikebacon3000 Date: Sunday, 05/Jul/09, 5:12 PM | Message # 47

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No I beleive in hell, just not in the sense of an eternal fire that goes forever and ever and ever.
I dont beleive it, because the catholic church (correct me if i'm wrong somebody) started fucking things up in Europe, and re-translated the Hebrew script to english, but they did it wrong. They started using hell as a scare tatic.
And to be honest, the ONLY reason I even started trying to become a christan, was because I was afraid of hell.
Then I realized that theres no reason in acting like I did it for any other reason, because this so called "jesus" knows everything Im thinking anyways, so I'm fucked either way.


Life's a bitch and I'm just along for the ride.
s0dr2 Date: Sunday, 05/Jul/09, 6:50 PM | Message # 48

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oh so you admit its a metaphor than

mmmmmmmmmaybe?

....the bread and blood doesnt TRANSFORM....it just symbolizes? Christ's body and blood?....but then again it IS His body and blood in the form of bread and wine...mkay enough of this

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No I beleive in hell, just not in the sense of an eternal fire that goes forever and ever and ever.

i dont know how many times i have to say this bacon:

Matthew 25:41
“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
Matthew 25:46
And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

2Thessalonians 1:9
These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,
Jude 1:6
[i]And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;[/i]

-----> this isnt to scare/convert you or anything, its mainly to correct your understanding on Christianity.

and forget! the catholic church...you know Christ's church was founded on Peter and the apostles on Pentecost...then they went out and started preaching all over....these churches remain today which are the catholic church -->AND<-- the orthodox churches these are the only authentic ones, forget all the protestant ones that were recently formed that invented things like the sacraments are unnecessary for salvation, or that we dont need the church in our spiritual lives


"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain



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Menace Date: Sunday, 05/Jul/09, 6:54 PM | Message # 49

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mmmmmmmmmaybe?

....the bread and blood doesnt TRANSFORM....it just symbolizes? Christ's body and blood?....but then again it IS His body and blood in the form of bread and wine...mkay enough of this

God you are retarded that is an actual FUCKING METAPHOR in reality in psychical forget the fucking spiritual and fucking paranormal or whatever we living in the REAL FUCKING WORLD dude check the word metaphor in the fucking dictionary and study the original texts in Hebrew and ancient Greek stop reading translated approved issues


s0dr2 Date: Sunday, 05/Jul/09, 6:55 PM | Message # 50

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God you are retarded that is an actual FUCKING METAPHOR in reality in psychical forget the fucking spiritual and fucking paranormal or whatever we living in the REAL FUCKING WORLD dude check the word metaphor in the fucking dictionary and study the original texts in Hebrew and ancient Greek stop reading translated approved issues

lol are you serious? im talking from a Christian point of view are you a Christian? i dont think so

im not concerned with the words literal or metaphor that have definitions, im concerned with the definitions


"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain



Message edited by sodr2 - Sunday, 05/Jul/09, 6:58 PM
Menace Date: Sunday, 05/Jul/09, 6:58 PM | Message # 51

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lol are you serious? im talking from a Christian point of view

what the fuck are you talking about is not about views is about a fucking definition of a shit in the fucking dictionary you symbolically eat Christ so that is an actual METAPHOR and even if you eat him in reality or you actually eat him that's CANNIBALISM eating a mans flesh even if he's god is still CANNIBALISM in definition


s0dr2 Date: Sunday, 05/Jul/09, 6:59 PM | Message # 52

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what the fuck are you talking about is not about views is about a fucking definition of a shit in the fucking dictionary you symbolically eat Christ so that is an actual METAPHOR and even if you eat him in reality or you actually eat him that's CANNIBALISM eating a mans flesh even if he's god is still CANNIBALISM in definition

MAMA-SE MAMA-SA MAMA-COO SA!!

btw menace, many of Jesus' disciples LEFT Him when He introduced this topic because they were confused and werent in the spiritual state.... like you right now


"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain



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ilikebacon3000 Date: Sunday, 05/Jul/09, 7:03 PM | Message # 53

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hell is fake.

Life's a bitch and I'm just along for the ride.
Menace Date: Sunday, 05/Jul/09, 7:05 PM | Message # 54

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MAMA-SE MAMA-SA MAMA-COOCOO SA!!

btw menace, many of Jesus' disciples LEFT Him when He introduced this topic because they were confused and werent in the spiritual state.... like you right now

oh so rationalism and common sense is a sin i can't accept Christ cause i have common sense ??
and you see you don't even make sense we are talking here about first hand shit if i eat a mans flesh i am a fucking CANNIBAL it's about fucking common sense i could eat a man's flesh as a metaphor as a symbol to the man but actually eating it it's cannibalism and it is a metaphor a symbolical act of course like my Grandma you think Priests have power to make shit holy and that shit ain't different then a Gypsy putting a curse on my dog


s0dr2 Date: Sunday, 05/Jul/09, 7:07 PM | Message # 55

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bacon are you serious? i cant believe what youre saying, you ignored my passages didnt even mention them...it is clear you are ignoring God's words:

Matthew 25:41
“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
Matthew 25:46
And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

2Thessalonians 1:9
These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,
Jude 1:6
[i]And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;[/i]

bacon, im repeating myself over and over...if you're a Christian, you believe in hell

you are not a Christian because if you were, youd believe in the truth...hell is the truth (if you're a Christian) and you're ignoring it to suit your own desires so you wont be scared


"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain

ThaScience Date: Sunday, 05/Jul/09, 7:11 PM | Message # 56

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sodr2 just wondering where are u from, i mean race not what part of america.. and have u ever thought about reading the quran?
just wondering happy


s0dr2 Date: Sunday, 05/Jul/09, 7:11 PM | Message # 57

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oh so rationalism and common sense is a sin i can't accept Christ cause i have common sense ??

listen menace...ill direct you to the words of our Lord:

Psalm 135 :17
They have ears, but they do not hear;

Mark 8:18
Having eyes, do you not see? And having ears, do you not hear? And do you not remember?

you have 'ears' and you understand things with your brain....but you do not hear ie you do not understand from your heart


"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain



Message edited by sodr2 - Sunday, 05/Jul/09, 7:12 PM
Menace Date: Sunday, 05/Jul/09, 7:14 PM | Message # 58

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listen menace...ill direct you to the words of our Lord:

Psalm 135 :17
They have ears, but they do not hear;

Mark 8:18
Having eyes, do you not see? And having ears, do you not hear? And do you not remember?

what ??

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reading the quran?

and don't start him on that he's a Fundamentalist


Menace Date: Sunday, 05/Jul/09, 7:15 PM | Message # 59

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you have 'ears' and you understand things with your brain....but you do not hear ie you do not understand from your heart

but doing shit whit out thinking is bad your mom didn't tell you that or something ?? is called being irrational


ThaScience Date: Sunday, 05/Jul/09, 7:21 PM | Message # 60

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well ive read parts of the quran, in english obviosuly.. it cool dough, i respect that religion a lot.

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