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Pro Or Anti-abortion
eboyd Date: Sunday, 05/Apr/09, 4:16 AM | Message # 31

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^^^^ basically a direct response to someone who brought up the same point that sodr did.

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s0dr2 Date: Sunday, 05/Apr/09, 4:16 AM | Message # 32

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Let me get you some hard numbers real quick you conservative bastard! biggrin

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i didnt get much from that......translate it for me (if you can)......................and what's conservative mean? (forgive me, im still young)

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no this is not fair at all, the law doesnt make it fair for the man..i think if the man wants her to have an abortion he should have the right to give up parental rights but no court will give it to him..

you see?? ohhhhh the humanity!!

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the law stinks sometimes

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eboyd Date: Sunday, 05/Apr/09, 4:23 AM | Message # 33

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Before Roe vs. Wade (1973. Legalized abortion): 900+ abortions.

More than 20 years After Roe vs. Wade: less than 700 abortions

The second article states that abortion stats are pretty constant whether legal or illegal. The problem is that just before Roe vs. Wade they cracked down on illegal abortions making the tactics by which fetuses were aborted illegal more rudimentary, so out of those 900 that had abortions, about 450 died or were seriously injured from complications of their abortions.


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s0dr2 Date: Sunday, 05/Apr/09, 4:29 AM | Message # 34

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so out of those 900 that had abortions, about 450 died or were seriously injured from complications of their abortions.

now heres where i come in.........

1. how about the numbers of ppl who "DIED" out of the 700 abortions after this trial
2. "or were seriously injured"

there are not enough exclamation points to fit on here....

*brain fuse explodes*

ahhhhh........blood just clotting in my brain, but ok....ok im fine.....alright...NOW:

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THE "SERIOUSLY INJURED" PEOPLE COULD OF REPRESENTED LIKE 90% OF THE 900 PEOPLE???????????????? WHO KNOWS, ONE PERSON COULD OF DIED....

ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT A BABY'S ******LIFE********** IS LESS VALUABLE THAN A WOMAN BEING """"SERIOUSLY'''''' INJURED????????


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eboyd Date: Sunday, 05/Apr/09, 4:40 AM | Message # 35

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No, it's because when the woman is seriously injured THE BABY STILL DIES!!!!!! what I'm saying is that approximately 50% of the women who had abortions before legalization DIED OR WERE SERIOUSLY INJURED! This is a true fact and the same is not true now that it is legal. It's common sense man! And it's A PROVEN FACT! Abortion procedures are MUCH more sophisticated now that they are legal because they can figure out how to do it safely through science. It's like the safe sex argument. How are you more likely to prevent teen pregnancy, by condemning teen sex or educating the youth and making contraception easy to obtain?

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s0dr2 Date: Sunday, 05/Apr/09, 4:51 AM | Message # 36

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...........okay.

I guess legalizing abortion is fine...............

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but....

but....

why can't women just.....just stop the killing!!

WAIT hold up.....no abortion is wrong.

1. it shouldn't be legal.
2. this way the woman WILL have the baby
3. if not, and she tries "coat hangin' her trombone" then its her fault and she deserves to suffer

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How are you more likely to prevent teen pregnancy, by condemning teen sex or educating the youth and making contraception easy to obtain?

by condemning it through education. make contraception HARD to obtain, then teens wont do it, and if they do they're screwed!!

MUAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

you see erik...the key to ...goodness...is that we learn from our mistakes: this way, we wont go back and repeat this mistake


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eboyd Date: Sunday, 05/Apr/09, 5:01 AM | Message # 37

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Oh God.......

......... Dude, how many teens are REALLY not going to have sex just because we "educated them not to?" It's ignorant to assume that all teens will stop having sex because we educate them, so with the small amount that still will, why not make it easy for them to get a hold of contraception? That way we completely minimize teen pregnancy.


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s0dr2 Date: Sunday, 05/Apr/09, 5:06 AM | Message # 38

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I never said all teens will stop.

If we make contraception hard....then they'll resist the temptation not to make sweet love.
Good so far? Pat yourself on the back....

NOW....

IF they do have sex without protection, then they're IDIOTS and will suffer for their actions, but WHO is going to be foolish to do that?


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eboyd Date: Sunday, 05/Apr/09, 5:13 AM | Message # 39

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Lol! Plenty! You know how many times when I was a teen I heard "man, fuck condoms! Raw dog feels SOOOO much better!!!!" We're talking 15 YEAR OLDS here too man. Don't give me that. Now when someone is using abortion in place of birth control, that is WRONG! They don't deserve to have an abortion. Either BE MORE RESPONSIBLE or TAKE RESPONSIBILITY with you new baby! Having one abortion is cool, but, 3? 4? 5? They deserve to get a big fuck if they try that shit!

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PNobleDaLyricist Date: Sunday, 05/Apr/09, 7:43 AM | Message # 40

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im against it by morals...and evendoe i DONT want it legal because of the fact your taking away life before its even furfilled...you can't always send every single un-wanted kid away...besides...overpopulation in the world i herd is killing all of us...

But how do y'all feel about the death penalty(electric chair, lethal injection, etc.) y'all think that should be legal? i personally dont want it 2 be


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eboyd Date: Sunday, 05/Apr/09, 7:55 AM | Message # 41

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But how do y'all feel about the death penalty(electric chair, lethal injection, etc.) y'all think that should be legal? i personally dont want it 2 be

i agree with you here. i'm a radical when it comes to law though. i feel that we need to go to more extensive lengths to treat criminals rather than say "fuck you!" throw the book at them, then make it IMPOSSIBLE for the person to get a job because all we are doing is breeding repeat offenders. sure, you have places that are in business SPECIFICALLY to employ/house criminals who can't get a job elsewhere, but that doesn't make it easy for someone to work still. those are jobs that pay little to nothing and they don't exist everywhere and are mainly for ex-gang members. they don't focus on sex offenders, domestic abusers, etc. i feel that death penalties should be held to life imprisonment in which instead of it being a life sentence it is a treatment in which you are there for life unless you can prove to doctors who can in turn prove to the government that you are "cured" and ready to function as a normal society member.


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ill Date: Sunday, 05/Apr/09, 4:59 PM | Message # 42

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babys are at most as aware as animals when you have an abortion, i cant tell any girl she can/cant have a baby if she doesnt want it she doesnt have to have it

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Menace Date: Sunday, 05/Apr/09, 5:08 PM | Message # 43

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babys are at most as aware as animals when you have an abortion, i cant tell any girl she can/cant have a baby if she doesnt want it she doesnt have to have it

what ?? do you know after 4 months nobody will abort you the fetus after 4 months and a half starts gaining life till then they have blank cells or as people know them stem cells they are NOT ALIVE fetuses are NOT ALIVE they have blank cells they have no life after 4 months and a half those cells start charging then they are ALIVE that's why abortion is legal cause in legal terms the fetuses are not living beings and thats why is illegal to abort after 4 months cause thats when they are alive


ill Date: Sunday, 05/Apr/09, 5:10 PM | Message # 44

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thats what i mean it cant feel shit its not aware of shit so it should be up to the girl

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Menace Date: Sunday, 05/Apr/09, 5:15 PM | Message # 45

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well animals are pretty aware animals have feelings too they have the basic ones but they have them tough fetuses till the 4th month don't thats why i meant to say

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