Revolution? Who Cares?
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EmSeeD |
Date: Sunday, 05/Oct/08, 9:28 PM | Message # 1 |
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Does this guy have a point? what are your opinions?
http://chirbit.com/emseed http://youtube.com/siwooot
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Kiba |
Date: Monday, 06/Oct/08, 5:15 AM | Message # 2 |
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Meh im not american so it aint my revolution or my prob! In Aus the public has the government by the balls caz its compulsory to vote and if we get fukd ova we vote em out simple yaah! But anyway yes this guy has many good points. and i have thought about this in the past, and he is right no matter the deal, power will 95% of the time corrupt ppl.. But then again if Aus started turing into a totalaterian police state, i would be keen on revolution no matter what the unknown future holds... To be honest tho fuk all this shit till after 2012 i relly do think sumting may happend not end of the world but sumting strange, like maby encounter wit the 3rd kind??? who knows? btw whats wit this dude having a smoke lmao
I looked at the moon so full and so bright And then at the fireplace with its flickering light And realised why this world will never be right
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EmSeeD |
Date: Monday, 06/Oct/08, 3:09 PM | Message # 3 |
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if any of you were wondering his channel is theamazingatheist
http://chirbit.com/emseed http://youtube.com/siwooot
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EmSeeD |
Date: Sunday, 19/Oct/08, 10:57 PM | Message # 4 |
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Quote (Pensmoke) That cat is such a herb. He obviously lives in his mother's basement and makes annoying youtube vids all day everyday. I've seen his gibberish. yes but the guy is still quite smart and makes a lot of sense. did you actually watch the video?
http://chirbit.com/emseed http://youtube.com/siwooot
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EmSeeD |
Date: Monday, 20/Oct/08, 8:30 PM | Message # 5 |
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Quote (Pensmoke) That vid, no. I couldn't handle the failed attempt at trying too hard to look cool by smoking and cursing every other word. I have watched his videos on atheism before though. His voice is like some chick scratching her fingernails across a chalkboard to me. thats what i thought. don't be put off by the fact he's an atheist. he's not trying to look cool with the cigarette, he's smoking a cigar because thats what castro always does. and he's talking about revolution, he doesn't mention religion at all. im a christian myself but i enjoy watching his videos.
http://chirbit.com/emseed http://youtube.com/siwooot
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I_Guy |
Date: Tuesday, 21/Oct/08, 1:31 AM | Message # 6 |
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He's worth watching.
We all know that each of our end is near; the question is do we accept the end of our living existence, or do we accept our existence as dead men...
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Menace |
Date: Tuesday, 21/Oct/08, 8:47 AM | Message # 7 |
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Quote (EmSeed) thats what i thought. don't be put off by the fact he's an atheist. he's not trying to look cool with the cigarette, he's smoking a cigar because thats what castro always does. and he's talking about revolution, he doesn't mention religion at all. im a christian myself but i enjoy watching his videos. my man emseed always reasonable lol Yo! Pensmoke u should learn from him me and him had heavy arguments but we never really took them personal or we never judged each other cause we dont practice each others religions and one thing more religion haves nothing to do when u talk politics or social things
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eboyd |
Date: Tuesday, 21/Oct/08, 11:11 AM | Message # 8 |
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Menace, it sounds more to me like he doesn't want to listen to dude because he thinks his opinions are idiotic. I like him because, even though he represents opinions I very often disagree with he always seems to represent something unique; something no one else before him has expressed. I mean seriously, who have you heard argue that revolution doesn't work?
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Menace |
Date: Tuesday, 21/Oct/08, 11:20 AM | Message # 9 |
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Quote (eboyd) enace, it sounds more to me like he doesn't want to listen to dude because he thinks his opinions are idiotic. I like him because, even though he represents opinions I very often disagree with he always seems to represent something unique; something no one else before him has expressed. I mean seriously, who have you heard argue that revolution doesn't work? u talkin about Pensmoke ?? or that dude in the vid?? if u talkin about that dude then yeah u right but his video is very short and very critical about communism in a way i mean the way he tells me about revolution he describes a rather communist one so its just a short vid just talkin a lil bit about revolution and what if it doesn't work i mean u cant go at someone in a argument whit just this vid cause its to short and it lacks some definitions but in a whole is a good vid and Pensmoke he bashed this dude whit that weed smokin and nerd livin in the basement bullshit rhetoric i find that move childish
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Menace |
Date: Wednesday, 22/Oct/08, 12:33 PM | Message # 10 |
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Quote (Pensmoke) Yeah, I think "menace" and "emseed" assumed that I don't like the guy because he is an atheist. What a predictable thing for them to assume. Its wrong though. I don't like the guy's videos because I have actually watched several of them and I don't agree with his views. I can do that see, cuz Im a grown man with my own opinion on things. I already went through my rebellious revolutionary youth stages years ago. I was right along in agreement with Chuck D. and P.E. when the political hip hop was running things. On my box I was blaring out some Paris, Lench Mob, X-Clan, and many other revolutionary type cats. Here's the thing.......I got older....I got wiser..... I grew up and changed. I started feeling intellectual flows and intelligent lyricism as opposed to all that other stuff. So the point is this: I have watched the guy's videos. I don't like his viewpoint. I don't care if he is an atheist. I have some brothers on my mixtape who are revolutionary type cats who are muslim. Peep this brother out. Click.I don't hate them because they are muslim. They are dope emcees. Don't assume stuff about me, fam. It's not a good look. im not the one who jumps to conclusions here when u talk politics u bring arguments why u dont like his political views and u didnt bring and ive jumped to that conclusion and im not a "american" to go tru stages and trends im not livin in a western country and when i speak politics and "revolution" i speak a fact maybe in america are just words but in a 3rd world country are facts and actions not words and trends and one thing more i always been like this ask eric we know each other from almost 2 years and im not into a trend no rappers have my political views mostly are socialists and black nationalist and i dont really advocate that im a anarchist in short whit libertarian views so i dont know if those artists u mention have many things in common whit me
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eboyd |
Date: Wednesday, 22/Oct/08, 1:21 PM | Message # 11 |
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Come on Menace. You need to stop you guys are just arguing because of misunderstandings. Don't get heated, just come to a calm understanding.
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Menace |
Date: Wednesday, 22/Oct/08, 1:53 PM | Message # 12 |
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Quote (eboyd) Come on Menace. You need to stop you guys are just arguing because of misunderstandings. Don't get heated, just come to a calm understanding. he talkin politics whitout arguments and he coining me as being on the "revolutionary" bandwagon he doesn't even know me and he jumpin to conclusions and he aint stickin to the talk he always impling that i am on a certain "revolutionary" trend he goes off point the he jumps to conclusions whitout knowin me
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eboyd |
Date: Wednesday, 22/Oct/08, 4:32 PM | Message # 13 |
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Menace, I think you are going to need yo understand something here. Neither you or I have experienced life as long as Pensmoke has and from what I have learned from word of mouth, it is commonplace for people, as young adults, to have a revolutionary attitude, just as you and I do. However, it is also common for these same revolutionaries to become less revolutionary and more intellectual/logical as they advance in years. Unlike you and I, Pensmoke is in his thirties (right?) Now. Not to say that ALL revolutionaries let go of their revolution as they get older, but a good amount realize that revolution is a high aspiration and many people compromise their aspirations more and more as they get older. Now, for his comment, I feel like you are misunderstanding something. I don't know if something is getting lost in translation or if you are simply having trouble with comprehension but what he said was that you and EmSeed seem to think he is dismissing this guy because he is Atheist, however this assumption is incorrect. He didn't accuse you of being a "trendy revolutionary" either. He was simply referring to my aforementioned description of adult attitude changes with age. It wasn't directed as a subliminal attack towards you, it was truly the course his life has taken, for better or worse. I know from your description what you came from and I have a very loose idea of the attitude that atmosphere has engrained in you and so I understand your abbrasiveness. I'm very abbrasive myself and I can attribute it to the way I have been treated by my father or the ways I was teased and beaten up in middle school or the emotional abuses I endure every day from different sources, and yes I need to control them better myself, but rather than taking every comment that is remotely snide as disrespectful, learn to control your rage for when it is truly necessary and learn how to read things logically and not emotionally. Believe me, I need work on this too. That is the only reason I know what needs to be done.
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Menace |
Date: Wednesday, 22/Oct/08, 4:53 PM | Message # 14 |
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Quote (eboyd) nace, I think you are going to need yo understand something here. Neither you or I have experienced life as long as Pensmoke has and from what I have learned from word of mouth, it is commonplace for people, as young adults, to have a revolutionary attitude, just as you and I do. However, it is also common for these same revolutionaries to become less revolutionary and more intellectual/logical as they advance in years. Unlike you and I, Pensmoke is in his thirties (right?) Now. Not to say that ALL revolutionaries let go of their revolution as they get older, but a good amount realize that revolution is a high aspiration and many people compromise their aspirations more and more as they get older. Now, for his comment, I feel like you are misunderstanding something. I don't know if something is getting lost in translation or if you are simply having trouble with comprehension but what he said was that you and EmSeed seem to think he is dismissing this guy because he is Atheist, however this assumption is incorrect. He didn't accuse you of being a "trendy revolutionary" either. He was simply referring to my aforementioned description of adult attitude changes with age. It wasn't directed as a subliminal attack towards you, it was truly the course his life has taken, for better or worse. I know from your description what you came from and I have a very loose idea of the attitude that atmosphere has engrained in you and so I understand your abbrasiveness. I'm very abbrasive myself and I can attribute it to the way I have been treated by my father or the ways I was teased and beaten up in middle school or the emotional abuses I endure every day from different sources, and yes I need to control them better myself, but rather than taking every comment that is remotely snide as disrespectful, learn to control your rage for when it is truly necessary and learn how to read things logically and not emotionally. Believe me, I need work on this too. That is the only reason I know what needs to be done. lol u double posted and thats the thing eric he jumps to conclusions most of you pass tru that thing and that rebellious stage he doesn't know me i never been on that stage because i come from a long line of counter culture people and i gotta say i have people from my fam that had political power in the state too you people must understand that this is my JOB like the other part time job that i have this is the other part that fills it i was born like this i was feed like this i understand every word of yours but this is not rebellious teen years stuff dont generalize most kids here dont have time to go tru them stages we are born like this maybe because our parents maybe because our environment we are born like this so dont generalize i know what u say and what he says he is old i respect him as i respect deepru but dont generalize cause im from another place way different from yaal and the stages that we go tru are same very different he jumps whit ideas and tales whitout knowin me even if he meens it in a good way he doesn't know me he cant compare his childhood and lifes whit mines and what i will go tru and what i go tru cause they are 2 separate lifestyles 2 separate worlds
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Lord_Meth |
Date: Wednesday, 22/Oct/08, 8:43 PM | Message # 15 |
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yea like erik said so u both should make up and kiss LMAO Fuck them hoes and become homies LMAO jk But I kinda agree with Menace and Pensmoke tho they both had good points but they just seem to differ on little things
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