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End the Federal Reserve ? It's all Bullshit !!
Menace Date: Monday, 21/Sep/09, 9:10 AM | Message # 1

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the bullshit of the Libertarian Conservatives and their constant bickering over the federal reserve this is a good review of End The Fed by Ron Paul and a good explanantion on why the Fed Reserve is not the ultimate evil here the problem lies more deeper in capitalist economics more on this http://www.debtdeflation.com/blogs....fcredit




Menace Date: Thursday, 01/Oct/09, 10:20 AM | Message # 2

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The Federal Reserve is a monster. They continue to inflate the economy and pump money out of nothing into the system. This inflation they are causing is weakening the dollar more and more and eventually we are going to be in a Great Depression (its coming) and the dollar currency is going to collapse.

that's actually not true they are not causing it check the 2 part review of the book and you will see


Menace Date: Friday, 02/Oct/09, 8:29 PM | Message # 3

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But on the real, for Europeans it's good that the dollar is so low. It's very cheap for them to buy records in the U.S

that causes bubbles inside the economy after all this is done these bubbles erupt and cause severe damage we are not talking here about simple purchasing power if that would be the case that would be good but we are talking about unregulated political power of large, multi-national corporations and banks , corporations and banks that exercise power through leveraging trade agreements which in some instances damage the democratic rights of citizens and cause economic crisis because they consume beyond their means. Not the fed is the problem the fed is part of a bigger problem don't forget the fed is an actual private bank too it's a capitalist institution and has the right to exist after capitalist standards these Libertarian Conservatives pray to isolationism and such ideas but such ideas can't survive in capitalism because capitalism does everything to obtain capital it's the soul purpose of it you can't isolate it


eboyd Date: Saturday, 03/Oct/09, 2:58 PM | Message # 4

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You're right because it is a free market, after all.

Be careful. In no way is the US a free market system. The original idea for our economy was to have a free market system, but because we are now living in a post-small business America and corporations have so much political power (ie: the US's most powerful VP in recent history, if not ever, and his ties with Halliburton), we no longer have a "free market". The market is regulated by the corporations because the corporations have all the loot which equates to power because our politicians have proven to be so easily corruptable.

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I think getting rid of the gold standard had a lot to do with the inflation process.

????????? Gold hasn't been a US standard since your grandfather was getting his Huggies changed and sucking his thumb. This is a moot point.

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I don't have complete apathy with Ron Paul.

You mean faith? Apathy means you don't care. It is an antonym of sympathy.

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I mean hes a mason, an elitist, they all are. We don't really know whats going down.

Source???? You can claim anyone is a mason, just as everyone else does that wants to be political, without any reasoning, but the fact of the matter is that they are a fraternal organization and therefore they inherently are secretive and so we will probably never know for sure who is in their organization or what their mode of operations is and even whether or not their members share each other's views and goals. What I can tell you though is that while some freemasons have been open about their affiliations and have done terrible things, this is not necessarily condoned by freemasonry itself and it is a very charitable organization as well. Read my "Truth About Illuminati/Freemasonry" thread. I think you will see this from a more unbiased and factual basis after you do so.


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eboyd Date: Saturday, 03/Oct/09, 3:05 PM | Message # 5

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The whole idea was that they were trying to create mass inflation in order to make the dollar collapse and usher in a new currency. At least that is one of the theories.

There was a mint made of a coin some years ago (by the same people who made up the rumor) that some college professor was yapping about that was said to be the Amero, but it was a limited mint and there was never a plan to implement it in the first place. We will stick with our dollar, which I see as far worse than moving on to the Amero anyways.


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eboyd Date: Saturday, 03/Oct/09, 3:10 PM | Message # 6

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Freemasonry isn't invisible. They are a well documented organization and it's most prominent members (ie: Ben Franklin) are quite in the open about their affiliations. They even have a website which is linked in my thread. It is their fraternal operations, just as even the simplest college fraternity, that are secretive. That is what fraternities are all about. And usually those are harmless, however, a fraternity of such proportions may be a totally different story so idk.

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eboyd Date: Saturday, 03/Oct/09, 3:17 PM | Message # 7

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Just check my thread. There is information presented by outside sources, Menace, YANHAP, and I. It will teach you a lot. You can find the history and goals of freemasonry, as well as it's ties to Illuminati and things that members have been involved in. It is very informative. Check down a few threads from here. I guarantee you will find the info useful.

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Menace Date: Saturday, 03/Oct/09, 5:14 PM | Message # 8

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However, thats why the Federal Reserve is bad. Why would we not audit the fed? I don't think of Ron Paul as a hero. He's one of those politicians I can get behind though because he for more freedom and less government. His logic is what I find logical. And equating libertarianism with being rich..fuck. Capitalism is a fucked system as it is, I think giving the people the most power in it though, creates a better system. Paul's system just makes sense. (along with his advisor Peter Schiff) These guys called an economic depression coming back in 03! I think getting rid of the gold standard had a lot to do with the inflation process.

he's not giving power to the "people" he's giving power to the private sector to the Chamber of Commerce to the Corporations that these libertarians condemn these libertarians are a bunch of hypocrites you can't AUDIT the fucking fed because half of the fed is PRIVATE OWNED these libertarians want EVERYTHING privatized they think if they privatized everything this fed reserve and corporations will cease to exist this is the biggest oxymoron i ever heard privatization will buff the corporations and the fed because they will use their capital in order to purchase the newly given sectors neither the libertarian's PRIVATIZATION nor the state capitalists NATIONALIZATION will solve our economic problems PRIVATIZATION and NATIONALIZATION are two roads that lead to the same place to oligarchic economic centralization if you want to support the true LIBERTARIANS the original French tradition then support socialization support workers direct takeover and direct control of the means of production

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Be careful. In no way is the US a free market system. The original idea for our economy was to have a free market system, but because we are now living in a post-small business America and corporations have so much political power (ie: the US's most powerful VP in recent history, if not ever, and his ties with Halliburton), we no longer have a "free market". The market is regulated by the corporations because the corporations have all the loot which equates to power because our politicians have proven to be so easily corruptable.

the free market is a myth and even if it's achieved in her true form free markets wouldn't allow workers to directly control the means of production ideas like Free Agreement or Mutual Aid can't survive in a free market because the free market as an economic idea relies on private ownership and competition which creates what we have now

And as for Masons even if they exist or not it does not matter because SOCIAL CLASSES will still exist power centralization will still exist these Masons and their elitisms are the product of the natural development of class society


Menace Date: Saturday, 03/Oct/09, 5:25 PM | Message # 9

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I understand, I'm just talking about what it appears on the surface.

even on the surface is clear at least for me wealth transaction from the state sector the the private sector but wait the fuck this private sector is the CORPORATION is the fed reserve so what we are doing transferring wealth from the same place to the same place LOL :D it's so laughable man


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