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Representative Democracy IS NOT Democracy
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| Menace |
Date: Saturday, 31/Oct/09, 11:39 AM | Message # 1 |
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a very good video
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| eboyd |
Date: Saturday, 31/Oct/09, 1:51 PM | Message # 2 |
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Nice! I have to say that I didn't find a single thing in this video that I disagreed with.
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| Menace |
Date: Saturday, 31/Oct/09, 2:02 PM | Message # 3 |
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I'm glad you liked it my friend The Left Libertarian asked me to spread it around thanks for checking also if you have time now check this one it's a bit from Jonathan's Golden Rule i find this bit from the video extraordinary
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| eboyd |
Date: Saturday, 31/Oct/09, 2:25 PM | Message # 4 |
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Nice! I'm liking the Chomsky commentary at the end. My mom's best friend is a huge Chomsky fan and she gave me a copy of "Rogue States" that I've still yet to finish reading, but when I told her that Chomsky was an anarchist or at least a supporter of direct/participatory democracy she said "no he isn't!" Well Lisa, this video here is proof babe. Sorry 
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| Menace |
Date: Saturday, 31/Oct/09, 2:37 PM | Message # 5 |
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Oh Chomsky proclaimed himself a libertarian socialist so inherently by that he is an anarchist but there are tons of videos on youtube at least whit Chomsky defending and talking about anarchism and anarcho-syndicalism in all of them he proclaims himself as an anarchist show your friend these videos for example :
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| eboyd |
Date: Saturday, 31/Oct/09, 5:54 PM | Message # 6 |
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I watched the first 3. The second one kind of confused me because he said he doesn't consider himself a person of anarchist thought, but then I realized 1. he was older in the first one and he specifically said in that one that he was, in fact, an anarchist, and 2. he was stating that he doesn't LIMIT himself to anarchist thought. Quite interesting and compelling. I also watched him debate a renowned political talk show host (forgot his name. Part of his fame came from him debating Gore Vidal and calling him a Nazi or something like that) and also a video where they interviewed him about religion and he was discussing his views of religion and belief in God in general being irrational but still a good moral force at times. Interesting stuff.
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| Menace |
Date: Saturday, 31/Oct/09, 9:23 PM | Message # 7 |
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Quote (eboyd) he was discussing his views of religion and belief in God in general being irrational but still a good moral force at times. when it comes to religion Chomsky has a traditional laissez-faire attitude the Romanian Humanist Association which I'm part of interviewed him and asked him about this topic and he responded exactly the way i thought even tough i am quite fierce in judging religion i don't care if people are religious if they keep it to themselves is all good religion must be private not public keep it voluntarily and in their homes Quote (eboyd) The second one kind of confused me because he said he doesn't consider himself a person of anarchist thought, but then I realized 1. he was older in the first one and he specifically said in that one that he was, in fact, an anarchist, and 2. he was stating that he doesn't LIMIT himself to anarchist thought. Quite interesting yes i noticed that his ideas and his viewpoints are in constant evolution and it seems as he gets older he becomes more and more anarchistic more militantly anarchist when he was younger he called for self management , industrial democracy and such but he didn't go deeply it seems when he got older he became more Bakunist in theory and more anti-authoritarian because he started using more and more anarchist critique against the state , societal hierarchies and power in general .
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| eboyd |
Date: Saturday, 31/Oct/09, 10:05 PM | Message # 8 |
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And btw, "representative democracy" was a term invented by conservative Platonic Republican elitists who wanted the people of the state they were ruling to believe they had more power than they did. Representative democracy is a more people friendly term that could therefore be more accurately described as a republic.
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| Menace |
Date: Saturday, 31/Oct/09, 10:22 PM | Message # 9 |
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Oh i didn't know that but this term is more people appealing people understand this term better that's why he put it there
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| eboyd |
Date: Saturday, 31/Oct/09, 10:42 PM | Message # 10 |
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I'm not saying Plato made the term up, I'm saying people who believe in Plato's concept of the republic did. I'm talking about neo-conservative elitist pricks. You know this, Menace, don't play dumb
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| Menace |
Date: Sunday, 01/Nov/09, 11:12 AM | Message # 11 |
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i actually didn't know that LOL but you know they call a Republic a Representative democracy because people directly or indirectly choose their representatives for them democracy is just that if you choose someone it's a democracy
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| J-Breakz |
Date: Wednesday, 16/Dec/09, 8:34 PM | Message # 12 |
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Quote (Menace) people directly or indirectly choose their representatives for them democracy is just that if you choose someone it's a democracy
No your not being specific enough. It's suppose to be about people who choose someone that represents their viewpoints on certain subject matter.
livin life like some cheesy movie
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