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Why Voting Is A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME
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| Menace |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Nov/08, 11:31 AM | Message # 1 |
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Lets choose the lesser evil thats the one thing we think when we vote or lets vote whit the neo-liberal (Obama) cause he is a liberal so he is good . Well on the other hand neo-liberalism enforced more corporate agendas and wars in other countries then conservatism. In reality liberals are eating democracy alive in the same way cons do in fact the position of power that liberals have gives them a free way to bite the both sides of the spectrum cause centrism allows them to do that. The voter falls for a few promises that the candidate makes them and falls for the illusion that those few promises will change something but the reality is that they give us "something" but they take that "something" back in the tripled amounts and that stands for both cons and liberals. The United States likes to portray itself as the bastion of freedom and champion of democracy, but if this were really true then there would be at least 6 or 8 different parties to choose from at election time, and given that it is now a country of over 300 million people a choice of at least 10 different parties would be more appropriate, but instead there are just two. Why is this? The reason comes down to the "concentration of power" issue that we addressed in an earlier article with respect to corporate America and the systematic disenfranchisement of its population. The reality is that the two remaining political parties, the Democratic and Republican parties are in fact one, and the only reason that the ultimate step is never taken and the parties merged is that with one party to vote for and an election being completely superfluous, even Joe Sixpack would realize that he is living in a dictatorship. So the 2 remaining parties continue to dumbbell around each other for ever, maintaining the thinnest facade of democracy, and controlling the country for their elitist masters via their duopoly of power. The plutocratic elites who control the United States and both the Democratic and Republican parties also have complete control over the media, whose job it is to maintain the illusion of democracy, especially during the farcical circus of the election campaign. They do this by playing up contrived and trivial differences between the parties and by playing up personalities who the voting public can identify with, a recent example of this crude but effective approach being the Alaskan hockey mom Sarah Palin suddenly being thrust forward into the limelight, and intended to provide a counterpoint to the sagging old man who would be President, John McCain. At a time of life when he should be content to sit in a rocking chair on his front porch, and dead head the roses and perhaps give occasional advice to troubled young people, McCain intends to try to run a country of 300 million people. He looks like one long haul flight would finish him off. Although Obama would seem to be the better choice for President, on account of his youthful energy, generally positive dynamic attitude and eloquent use of English, the sad fact is that he is in the pockets of his plutocratic masters just as McCain is and must end up doing their bidding - if he wasn't his funding would have dried up and he would have been run into a ditch long ago. So with both parties and both candidates completely compromised and representing the same vested interests, it is clear that voting will accomplish absolutely nothing and change nothing - it is a complete and utter waste of time. The entire election campaign is a charade whose real purpose is to continue the elites' stranglehold on power, whilst at the same time maintaining the illusion that the US is a free and fair society, but otherwise it is a total waste of time and energy. The lack of any substantive difference between the parties is worth making clear at this juncture, because it means that it is largely irrelevant to the markets who wins the election, and it is the purpose of this article to point this out.
It is always good to end an essentially gloomy article on a positive note. Whoever wins the election and becomes the next President has got to be an improvement on the crass and imbecilic George W Bush, who only got the job through extreme corruption and graft. If nothing else, election day does provide a chance to socialize and may even present the opportunity for single readers to find a partner. The following chat up lines are tentatively suggested... Male voter in line to female voter: "You do realize this is a complete waste of time don't you? - we won't change anything..." Female voter: "Well, yes, but what the heck..." Male voter: "Might I suggest that we go back to my place and try something a lot more meaningful"... 
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| Deadly-Sin |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Nov/08, 11:46 AM | Message # 2 |
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FUCK VOTING!!! i will spend time in jail
if i have to cause here u must vote if your an adult
and im 18 witch here is an adult other wise u face jail time
i dont care tho im not voting,. the only way i would vote
is if someone worth me voting for was running.for primeminister
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but back to topic I dont understand how people in USA all think that who ever
they vote for is gonna make it a better place its never been
a great place yet theres people who think elephant man(Obama with his huge ears)
or the old guy. are gonna really change shit for the better.
if i was in the USA id vote for MCcain if u had to. cause
i wouldnt wont someone who was pretty much unkwon
untill late 2006 running the country. obama is just a black folk
brainwasher while MCcain is some stupid fuck. voting is a huge waste of time
the polls get rigged everytime. look at bush he pretty much got in
cause he cocksucked the goverment bosses. sorry for the rant..i
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| Menace |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Nov/08, 11:52 AM | Message # 3 |
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Quote (Genasydal) FUCK VOTING!!! i will spend time in jail if i have to cause here u must vote if your an adult and im 18 witch here is an adult other wise u face jail time i dont care tho im not voting,. the only way i would vote is if someone worth me voting for was running.for primeminister . but back to topic I dont understand how people in USA all think that who ever
they vote for is gonna make it a better place its never been
a great place yet theres people who think elephant man(Obama with his huge ears)
or the old guy. are gonna really change shit for the better.
if i was in the USA id vote for MCcain if u had to. cause
i wouldnt wont someone who was pretty much unkwon
untill late 2006 running the country. obama is just a black folk
brainwasher while MCcain is some stupid fuck. voting is a huge waste of time
the polls get rigged everytime. look at bush he pretty much got in
cause he cocksucked the goverment bosses. sorry for the rant..i well if u lived in the US still fall for it in voting cause u said u whit MCcain so u would still be sheep and WHAT in australia thei jail u if u dont vote?? MAN THATS BULLSHIT thats not LEGAL man create a movement to defend your rights man thats bullshit u have the right to do anything thats why its called the FREE WORLD if they obligate u to vote that means u live in a totalitarian system thats not democratic at all what the fuck??
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| Deadly-Sin |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Nov/08, 11:57 AM | Message # 4 |
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Quote (Menace) well if u lived in the US still fall for it in voting cause u said u whit MCcain so u would still be sheep and WHAT in australia thei jail u if u dont vote?? MAN THATS BULLSHIT thats not LEGAL man create a movement to defend your rights man thats bullshit u have the right to do anything thats why its called the FREE WORLD if they obligate u to vote that means u live in a totalitarian system thats not democratic at all what the fuck??
I know it sounds fucked up man. but here u gotta vote
they make u other wise its jail time witch can be for up to a week
or a month maybe even a few years depending on if u have a record
i find it fucked up cause why should i vote when i want change
not some brainwashing random talking shit. our goverment
was pretty good untill 2003 when they sold out for the USA
goverment. but also i dont think they would know if i vote or not
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| Menace |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Nov/08, 12:02 PM | Message # 5 |
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Quote (Genasydal) I know it sounds fucked up man. but here u gotta vote
they make u other wise its jail time witch can be for up to a week
or a month maybe even a few years depending on if u have a record
i find it fucked up cause why should i vote when i want change
not some brainwashing random talking shit. our goverment
was pretty good untill 2003 when they sold out for the USA
goverment. but also i dont think they would know if i vote or not are u talkin serious?? but its your right to not vote or vote man DO SOMETHING talk whit lawyers and tellem to show u and tell u why u are obligated cause thats a violation of your basic human rights its called free will u need to do something research on it man i find that really fuckt up create a movement find someone from australia that see's the situation as i see it and join him yaal need to move on this cause sanctions on not voting are simply ILLEGAL no matter what country
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| Deadly-Sin |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Nov/08, 12:12 PM | Message # 6 |
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Quote (Menace) are u talkin serious?? but its your right to not vote or vote man DO SOMETHING talk whit lawyers and tellem to show u and tell u why u are obligated cause thats a violation of your basic human rights its called free will u need to do something research on it man i find that really fuckt up create a movement find someone from australia that see's the situation as i see it and join him yaal need to move on this cause sanctions on not voting are simply ILLEGAL no matter what country
Yes im been 100% serious bro. u gotta vote here
i dont care if i do jail time for standing up
for the voiceless who vote cause they think its gonna mean something
like our PM kevin rud said sorry to all the aboriginals taking away from
there familys back in th day but he only did it so the black people
here would think his doing them a favor yet he doesnt give a fuck
that so many black people in australia are alcaholics, who live
in houses with burnt carpet no money and have to live
in places where theres no power so they live in
tiny little camp like places where young girls as young as 10
get raped.
in oz there was a ten year old girl who was raped by ten white guys
the judge turned around and said "she probably led them on"
come on a ten year old doesnt led on 10 males around 20 years old
and all kevin rudd could do was act like he gave a shit.
i will stand for my rights no matter what... oh and i wrote some of that track i was writing
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| eboyd |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Nov/08, 5:00 PM | Message # 7 |
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Menace, you do know that here in America the presidential nominee isn't the only choice on the ballot, right? Plus there are way more choices than Obama or McCain. Unfortunately they are the only two that matter though. Also, I am well aware that both candidates secretly represent the corporate agenda but we are going through an economic crunch right now and I and many others are directly affected. As Obama follows Clinton's ideas on the economy, we will, to say the least, get that fixed temporarily.
my new theme song
erikboyd60@hotmail.com
"True poetry can communicate before it is understood"
-T.S. Eliot
battle record:
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| Menace |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Nov/08, 5:10 PM | Message # 8 |
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Quote (eboyd) Menace, you do know that here in America the presidential nominee isn't the only choice on the ballot, right? Plus there are way more choices than Obama or McCain. Unfortunately they are the only two that matter though. Also, I am well aware that both candidates secretly represent the corporate agenda but we are going through an economic crunch right now and I and many others are directly affected. As Obama follows Clinton's ideas on the economy, we will, to say the least, get that fixed temporarily. well money is into 2 parties and the 2 parties represent imma give u an example Linn is a former Republican who is now running to be the governor of Florida or he run . He’s a millionaire but even he doesn’t have the funds to legitimately compete with the Republican and Democratic parties. When the politicians for the two big parties recently had a public debate, Linn wasn’t even allowed to take part in it! So much for the idea that’s supposed to be the bedrock of democracy, the free exchange of ideas! and eric give them one finger they eat the whole hand so whatever fallin for the voting illusion whenever is still a waste of time and goes against the main principle of democracy to vote and participate in a plutocratic and oligarchic system
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| Menace |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Nov/08, 5:54 PM | Message # 9 |
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and one thing more eric u cant compare Clinton's era whit Obama's era cause for america the period when Clinton won was a pretty much quiet decade the fall of communism and the relatively time of peace but u cant compare it whit now days Clinton had a pretty much small job to take care but now the president haves a falling economy and a world wide fallin economy too and free market that cant save the situation plus the power is in the hands of the congress and the central banks and corporations and one thing more maybe u dont know that Obama is a neo-liberal Clinton was a new democrat and a advocate of the third way so u cant compare
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| eboyd |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Nov/08, 6:31 PM | Message # 10 |
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Ok, I just erased a long ass comment on accident so I will now just highlight the important things:
-Clinton was after the fall of communism
-In the long run, yes, Obama's policies are as bad as McCain's
-sure, Mit Romney or Ron Paul would be better
-they wouldn't stand a chance
-i preferred the moderator in the 9/26 debates to either candidate
-Obama's policies will provide temporary partial relief from Reaganomics, McCain follows Reaganomics to the T which would make the situation worse
-in California, prop. 8 may make gay marriage illegal and prop 5 may make it so nonviolent drug crimes are treated instead of harshly punished, two very important bills
-i can understand your frustration with Americas system of corporatocracy but telling people not to vote when one candidate can make things slightly better, for a little while at least, is asinine
my new theme song
erikboyd60@hotmail.com
"True poetry can communicate before it is understood"
-T.S. Eliot
battle record:
7-0-0
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| Menace |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Nov/08, 6:52 PM | Message # 11 |
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Quote (eboyd) Ok, I just erased a long ass comment on accident so I will now just highlight the important things:
-Clinton was after the fall of communism
-In the long run, yes, Obama's policies are as bad as McCain's
-sure, Mit Romney or Ron Paul would be better
-they wouldn't stand a chance
-i preferred the moderator in the 9/26 debates to either candidate
-Obama's policies will provide temporary partial relief from Reaganomics, McCain follows Reaganomics to the T which would make the situation worse
-in California, prop. 8 may make gay marriage illegal and prop 5 may make it so nonviolent drug crimes are treated instead of harshly punished, two very important bills
-i can understand your frustration with Americas system of corporatocracy but telling people not to vote when one candidate can make things slightly better, for a little while at least, is asinine i dont know how asinine i am when u are livin in a oligarchy and when free market capitalism is failing i dont know how asinine i can be when none of your presidents will put a stop to imperialism america haves heavy problems that will ultimately mean the fall of it sorry if i dont go even in my country to cast my vote one of the laws of politics says that true change doesn't come through the ballot box and i believe that as for every vote counts thats bullshit if u eric conform on that line then you advocate the system even if u say u dont create your own way of life rather then conform to a illusion your vote doesn't count man dont denie it plus not voting in large amounts of people will create a crisis in the elitist world and thats when the people have the opportunity to strike
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| eboyd |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Nov/08, 7:19 PM | Message # 12 |
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Here's what I'm saying though Menace. I can do my part in envoking revolution and changing the government on my own time and hopefully it will happen IN DUE TIME as in THE LONG RUN but FOR NOW I want the best I can get regardless of if it is minutely better or extraordinarily better. Sure, my vote is probably insignificant, but my vote is just one more vote towards getting what I want so even if it goes the other way at least I can say that I did my part to make it better for us at least for the time being, then I can go worry about doing something to help uproot the weed that is the American capitalist system on my own time.
my new theme song
erikboyd60@hotmail.com
"True poetry can communicate before it is understood"
-T.S. Eliot
battle record:
7-0-0
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| Kiba |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Nov/08, 7:39 PM | Message # 13 |
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The thing that wasted my time was how the aus media has been talking about the US elections
like iw was our own, and when i would listen to the BBC world service which imo is fairly good news service
fuck the US elections was talked about everyday too, no shit i want compo from america for wasting 24 hours of my life lol... I agree with menace tho fuck these elections and all US elections
its wack how long they go for and how much money gets spent on them
and with how shady the elite are there is never a change unless perhaps a 3rd party won it...
only change for america this time is that its falling on her ass and china will soon be crowned
new super power, i also read somwhere china loaned america $1 trillion
so now they are in china's pocket like they have been with israel for the last 10 years or so
I looked at the moon so full and so bright
And then at the fireplace with its flickering light
And realised why this world will never be right 
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| Lord_Meth |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Nov/08, 8:24 PM | Message # 14 |
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Quote (eboyd) Here's what I'm saying though Menace. I can do my part in envoking revolution and changing the government on my own time and hopefully it will happen IN DUE TIME as in THE LONG RUN but FOR NOW I want the best I can get regardless of if it is minutely better or extraordinarily better. Sure, my vote is probably insignificant, but my vote is just one more vote towards getting what I want so even if it goes the other way at least I can say that I did my part to make it better for us at least for the time being, then I can go worry about doing something to help uproot the weed that is the American capitalist system on my own time.
In Eric...We Believe........... Yea I agree with u Eric
I cant vote so I feel helpless to EITHER guy who gets in office so Im boned either way But I would like to see Barack get into office cause it would mean a new level of acheivment for African Americans
But I dont think he will make a change at all...Hes still a politican and as we all kno....they lie.........alot
But it gives African Americans (well the aware ones) a new insight into life and see that we can do more than just rap and play ball..that we can become great
So GO BARACK BITCHES!!!!!!!!!
Sick With It
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| Menace |
Date: Tuesday, 04/Nov/08, 8:41 PM | Message # 15 |
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Quote (eboyd) Here's what I'm saying though Menace. I can do my part in envoking revolution and changing the government on my own time and hopefully it will happen IN DUE TIME as in THE LONG RUN but FOR NOW I want the best I can get regardless of if it is minutely better or extraordinarily better. Sure, my vote is probably insignificant, but my vote is just one more vote towards getting what I want so even if it goes the other way at least I can say that I did my part to make it better for us at least for the time being, then I can go worry about doing something to help uproot the weed that is the American capitalist system on my own time. i thought u said that and your vote is towards nothing cause not everyone is like u or even me most of people dont even give attention to the debates thats how bush won and thats how Obama or the other fella gonna win too i mean the people will vote in blindness whatever good or bad so your vote goes into the trash cause the majority is stupid and one thing more eric u vote everyday the way u breath is the way u vote
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