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Climategate
What is your opinion?
1. this proves that global warming is a FRAUD! [ 1 ] [25.00%]
2. this proves nothing! global warming is true! [ 3 ] [75.00%]
3. this proves nothing, but i still think global warming is false. [ 0 ] [0.00%]
4. other (explain) [ 0 ] [0.00%]
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eboyd Date: Monday, 30/Nov/09, 7:52 PM | Message # 1

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for those of you that have heard about this, what are your opinions? did hackers really reveal the fraudulence of global warming science or did a couple of right wing hackers cherry pick some email information from some less-than-ethical scientists? or maybe your opinion is none of the above (though i think evidence only allows for those two options)...?

i personally fall into the camp of option 2. and for some kicks (and maybe so you can sort of understand, from a biased perspective espoused by an imbecile, what the situation is), here is Glenn Beck's take on this issue:



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Menace Date: Monday, 30/Nov/09, 8:10 PM | Message # 2

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Climategate its just an internet buzz thats why people didn't take it into consideration there are millions of such things on the internet Glenn Beck just supports because it fits whit his own agenda . And god damn these people are arrogant and ignorant and idiotic why we shouldn't be more environmental friendly ? why ?? oh wait i forgot right wingers don't give a shit about the environment if they have their property and money is all good doesn't matter that the air is thick and toxic like and we're eating fruit that tastes like shit

EmSeeD Date: Monday, 30/Nov/09, 8:14 PM | Message # 3

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how do you know they were cherry picking, have the entire emails come out?

but yeah the fact that only fox were reporting this is pretty dodgy, because a lot of big companies pay scientists to defend them and say there's no such thing as global warming, so its no surprise fox are the only ones reporting this. glenn beck is such a douche bag.


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I_Guy Date: Monday, 30/Nov/09, 9:17 PM | Message # 4

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He didn't really cite anything particularly revealing, just ranted about a general claim. The presentation was far to weak for it to be as true or as bad as they make it seem. If it was really that outrages, I'm pretty sure my jaw would be dropping. But there was no presentation of that sort, just general assertion and claims.

For instance,
What scientists? How significant are they? What are their credentials?
What was the specific key statements in the emails?
Who is this hacker? Is he now in jail?


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eboyd Date: Tuesday, 01/Dec/09, 1:42 AM | Message # 5

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Unfortunately for those of us who believe in global warming, the particular school that contained this information is the school where the main study that lead to the 2007 report of a scientific consensus on man made global warming took place. The 2007 IPCC report was based mainly on information from this school. Unfortunately, however, for the hackers, none of the important info from any specific study that was of importance was shown to be falsified or inflated in these emails. These emails, in fact, were rather dull in content. You can actually read all of the emails that they released online. Just look them up on google.

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Menace Date: Tuesday, 01/Dec/09, 6:43 AM | Message # 6

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i have noticed that my oranges are getting a little orangy...

dude are you retarded ?? compare the food our grand fathers ate and compare whit what we eat e simplu eat SHIT man most fruits in the market are chemical grown shit they look good but they are shallow and crude inside just like a whore :D


Adam Date: Tuesday, 01/Dec/09, 7:59 AM | Message # 7

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You know I have been feeling a little global heat :)




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I_Guy Date: Saturday, 12/Dec/09, 2:48 AM | Message # 8

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Menace Date: Saturday, 12/Dec/09, 5:41 AM | Message # 9

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my uncle said that the shit still tastes the same if anything it's better because when our grandfatehrs were living they had horrible pesticides now we have completely safe pesticides

pesticides and other chemical substances actually destroy vegetables and fruits http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pesticide


J-Breakz Date: Saturday, 12/Dec/09, 2:44 PM | Message # 10

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pesticides and other chemical substances actually destroy vegetables and fruits http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pesticide

That doesn't make sense. If a farmer can harvest more fruit and veggies without pesticides then why do they use them?


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eboyd Date: Saturday, 12/Dec/09, 5:12 PM | Message # 11

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completely safe pesticides

rofl completely safe for who???? go ahead and drink a cup of the pesticides they put on plants and vegetables and come back afterwards and tell me how you feel rofl

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you guys attack god but you believe in global warming? lol i thought you guys were skeptics and if theres anyone someone should be skeptical to its al gore and his global warming shit

i'm not skeptical for the sake of being skeptical as you seem to be. that is just as asinine as belief just because someone told me to believe. i believe in man-made global warming (you're an idiot if you deny even natural global warming) for the same reason i do not believe in God -- there is overwhelming scientific evidence supporting my position.


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EmSeeD Date: Saturday, 12/Dec/09, 5:33 PM | Message # 12

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here is one skeptic, according to this guy the earth was warming since around 1850, but they peaked around 1998 and we've had no further warming since then, of course this is his opinion though, heres the video

http://tvnz.co.nz/breakfa....o.xhtml


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J-Breakz Date: Saturday, 12/Dec/09, 7:40 PM | Message # 13

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i'm not skeptical for the sake of being skeptical as you seem to be. that is just as asinine as belief just because someone told me to believe. i believe in man-made global warming (you're an idiot if you deny even natural global warming) for the same reason i do not believe in God -- there is overwhelming scientific evidence supporting my position.

And that's the thing I don't get. Isn't there evidence that man only contributes to a slight percentage of global warming, and a large percentage of it is caused by animal flatulance? lol That what I've read. The earth has gone thru numerous changes and I don't think this global warming thing is any different.


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J-Breakz Date: Saturday, 12/Dec/09, 7:43 PM | Message # 14

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here is one skeptic, according to this guy the earth was warming since around 1850, but they peaked around 1998 and we've had no further warming since then, of course this is his opinion though, heres the video

I've also watched a video where scientists showed that Earth goes thru a cycle where there is global cooling and then global warming.

Oh yeah! and wasn't there a huge scare in the 70's that the world was gonna drastically get colder?


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