unfortunatley 2pacs words about the illuminati get taken out of context, even the video of 2pac saying he doesn't believe in it was posted by a guy who thinks 2pac believes it, the very quotes of 2pac saying he doesn't believe in it was used in a documentary of "2pac exposing the illuminati"

and did anyone ever say MJ was exposing the illuminati while MJ was alive? or is it only now that he's dead they're claiming this stuff

Yeah man, I used to find it funny, but now I think it's kind of sad that all of the videos in which 2pac clearly debunks the claim that he believes in the whole illuminati/freemansonry/nwo shit are flooded with comments like "2pac forever! Killuminati! Fuck the illuminati!" I mean I feel like saying to each of them "damn dude, are you incapable of understanding the English language? Maybe you should go back to pre-school and re-learn everything". Seriously, how can you claim to be a fan of someone like 2pac and not even be able to listen to and comprehend what he's saying?

I'm pretty sure it was after he died. I never heard any such claims prior to that. It is usually the case that people claim artists to talk about the illuminati after their deaths. I'm surprised I've not yet heard claims of Guru talking about the Illuminati before he died.

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Because we were too stupid to understand back then?

19 Year old Beatmaker from Holland! :D

Yes, I can. Certain shapes get better responses from our optical nerves and so some become more popular than others. Does the department store Macy's have a socialist agenda just because they have a red star for their symbol? Using symbolism as proof is like saying crop circles are signs from God (who, btw, probably doesn't exist) even though they were likely just patterns made by trespassers using wooden planks or other devices.

People talk about ODB talking about the illuminati just before he died. I watched the interview in question. The man never mentioned the illuminati. He said something to the effect of "the government is watching his every move". Not only is that not even close to saying that the illuminati is after him but it makes sense that a fresh out of prison drug addict who got arrested for something that he didn't even know was illegal would say that the government was watching him. Hell, they probably were. Convicted felons, especially parolees, tend to have people watching over them constantly. This is what it amounts to. The artists everyone claim spoke about the illuminati before they died never even mentioned them by name. MJ never let the word "illuminati" slip from his tongue publicly, and anyone who says "yeah but that's because he had to cover it up to try to be careful" needs a lobotomy. The only artists I've ever heard mention the illuminati are all still alive: Immortal Technique, Prodigy of Mobb Deep (in prison because he's a sociopathic idiot who thinks he's above the law, not because he mentioned illuminati), and a few others.

*facepalm*

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First off, why are we assuming it "clearly exists"? I haven't done a whole lot of research into Bohemian Grove, only the freemasonry and the illuminati, so idk.

Second, the only secret society that involves politicians performing rituals and worshiping their power and such that exists with its existence backed by evidence is the C Street Church and that group is hardly powerful enough to control the people on their block let alone anything bigger.

Even if this was true, let's just say the president practiced Laveyan Satanism. Even if we had proof that he performed the rituals of Laveyan Satanism and we decided to invade a country that happens to practice their rituals, would that be proof of any kind that 1. Laveyan Satanism was an occult ritual, and 2. this was all part of a grand world takeover scheme? I mean look at this logically as an if-then equation. When you take logic or philosophy classes you will come across this:

If: the president follows the rituals of a foreign country's religion
And: we invade that country
Then: the president and his secret society are involved in a world takeover scheme.

I mean seriously, if you fail to see the misstep in the logic here, idk what to tell you. It's pretty blatant.

Anyways, check this FAQ on the Illuminati:

http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/alt.illuminati_FAQ.html

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Theres another pic of it.

Also this donald duck coin ride

I JUST EXPLODED INTO RAINBOWS AND LOLLIPOPS!

and dude E that place was actually proven to exist they have pictures. and in a lot of presidential speeches they talk about uniting under one nation for a NWO