now look at that example they tried to use for Jay by playing the cuts from D'Evils, listen to those illuminati references that wasn't even Jay-Z that was samples cut by DJ Premier with another person from another song talking about how the illuminati is watching over them all the time, not Jay-Z saying he's in the illuminati. but believers are willing to put that aside and twist it to add it to their own theory that jay-z is in the illuminati

i think most of the illuminati references are either people that believe in it or people making light hearted references but don't actually believe in it. 2pac already said in a video that he doesn't believe in the illuminati and that he called his album killuminati to kill that idea of thinking

I see your point... but imo, there's something that is f*cking with us... seeding hate to fight. And I DO think that there are a few people and/or families, really controlling the world.

I found this too... there are like 25 parts of it or something...

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when he talked about selling his soul or whatever in that other video he sold out to suge knight not the illuminati, see once again these guys are feeding off the fans of these dead legends, first it was tupac and biggie now they're trying to do the same thing with michael jackson

these people are almost turning this into a religion seriously, there are people in hip hop who think people like africa bambaataa etc are gods of hip hop and there who people who actually believe lil wayne and jay-z work for the devil...literally the devil, they think the illuminati do the work of the devil and jay-z works for the illuminati, and thats where this shit comes from

even if there is an illuminati i doubt they're in hip hop or music, music doesn't need their help to be corrupt

and you know whats funny

thse people use examples like eminem or jay-z for using terms like "new world order" but has anyone of these conspiracy theorists ever asked eminem about this? or what he meant?

a while ago i wrote a little rhyme using the words "trapped in the order", i wrote this without even thinking of any NWO conspiracies, but if that same rhyme had been from a rapper like eminem or 2pac it would have been used an example of proof the illuminati are in music

o and hey I'm back guys lol

And I do believe they're in the music industry, music is a powerful tool to reach alot of people. Michael Jackson had sooo many fans; millions! And he talked bout Illuminati / Conspirecy in his later interviews and speeches... He got killed afterwards...

Every underground artist is against the Illuminati (thats why they don't get in the top charts on MTV or TMF or whatever music stations) Tupac became on top... and became very dangerous for them (illuminati) so he had to be done.

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Exactly! It's in movies, games, music, cartoons and even in logo's from companies (Logitech's logo is that eye, for example) Im watching almost every vid on youtube (with real footage of course) about this all... It's amazing.

All underground artists will stay underground because they are against the illuminati and new world order. but those who worship it (jay z, kanye etc) are all mainstream and are allowed to throw up their signs on pictures and using it in their clips. They sold their soul!!

19 Year old Beatmaker from Holland! :D

I'm still researching on this all... reading about people who have seen them (for example: Alex Jones).
I see in every interview with Bush, or MJ, 2pac, other high settled persons in the world, who are being asked about ''skull and bones'' ''322'' ''Bohemian Grove'' ''Secret Sociaty'', that they all say: ''We can't tell you, its secret''.

19 Year old Beatmaker from Holland! :D

What if they illuminati also owns and operates your brain so that you only think that you are thinking when they are really thinking for you? So maybe the idea that we think therefore we are is false because it's not really us thinking, it is the Illuminati operating our bodies like robots.

Do you see the similarities and, ultimately, how both of these questions/statements are absurd?

1. Why would you look to an entertainer as an ultimate authority for your research?

2. None of them have actually spoken about the Illuminati as if it was real. 2pac even explicitly debunked the claim that he was an Illuminati conspiracy theorist. Look up "2pac illuminati" on youtube.

Alex Jones is a fucking idiot. Please take every word that comes out of his mouth with a grain of salt. Trust me.

Actually I think it's more like "oh God, one of these stupid fucking questions again. Here, let me be a smart ass: "well, it's a secret so I can't tell you". Or maybe I'll just be honest: "idk wtf that shit is all about because I've never been involved in those organizations"."

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