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The Race Card
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| ilikebacon3000 |
Date: Thursday, 31/Mar/11, 1:02 AM | Message # 1 |
Emcees
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Today, I saw an argument on Facebook on a picture of a billboard. The billboard had a picture of a black baby, and it said "Black children are an endangered species." and then under it, it said "WWW.TOOMANYABORTED.COM"
I automatically knew this billboard was out of New York, because New York's abortion rate is like 6 out of every 10 black pregnancies. More than half of the babies die that are in pregnancy.
All these black kids were on there calling the billboard racist. I jumped in and tried to explain the statistics, and how the billboard was actually PRO-black-life, and wasn't racist at all.
Then they proceeded to go on and say that I was racist, and that I needed to do my research somewhere else, and that I hated black people.
So two things should be brought up here... Why are minorities, (and me being honest here) and especially blacks in America, so quick to accuse people of being racist? I know that sounds racist within itself, but seriously, I've lived around Mexicans all my life (I'm down south) and I've never met one that gave me the race card, but I get it seriously all the fucking time with local black people. "OH, IT'S CAUSE I'M BLACK!?!?!" and "OH you only (insert something here) because you're white!" My answer: No. It's not cause you're black, it's because you're a fucking idiot that can't speak properly and wears your pants to your knees, and you don't know shit about my history, let alone your own. It'd be the same if you were white, except people would call you "White trash honkey piece of shit" instead of the other kind of shit they might call you since you're black. And are minority groups entitled to anything?
I say no. If you're even like 8% Native American, you can get an Indian card and you can use it to get discounted everything... Cheap food, cheap clothes on indian land, cheap this, cheap that. You get government assistance as well. Just by chance too. You don't choose who you're born to, so why should you get free shit over shit that you didn't work for, or have any influence on? And why should I be paying for something that I had nothing to do with?
Affirmative action is bullshit. I don't think that I should have to hire a certain number of minorty folks just cause I have to. if a white guy is better equipped for the job, then they should be the one getting the job. if the black guy is better, then he should get the job, period. Seems like the worst thing to be in America right now is a working class white guy... Jobs aren't lined up for me, I'm the bad guy for something I didn't do, I'm automatically racist if I don't agree with everyone in the room, and working class in America normally means you make just over the poverty line, so you can't get government help (that's the exact boat I'm in.. my family is literally just above the amount needed for government housing and food stamps.. but we make JUST too much. it's bullshit...)
Life's a bitch and I'm just along for the ride.
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| ilikebacon3000 |
Date: Thursday, 31/Mar/11, 1:03 AM | Message # 2 |
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Emcees
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Please move to rant, since I can't move anything in this section... I meant to post it in Rant.
Life's a bitch and I'm just along for the ride.
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| Menace |
Date: Thursday, 31/Mar/11, 9:18 AM | Message # 3 |
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Minority groups are socially and economically excluded, communities where minority live are economically segregated , banks don't move in, real estate is crap and the GOVERNMENT instead of redistributing wealth accordingly throughout such communities they usually go around. So please don't put yourself in a black man's shoes, any poor person can access social programs, usually you can't find such programs in your community because your community is white and not economically segregated, you know why you can find such programs in black communities ? because you have some bourgeois bleeding heart liberals that feel comfortable whit themselves and guilty conscience free because they put such centers in such communities
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| ilikebacon3000 |
Date: Thursday, 31/Mar/11, 10:15 PM | Message # 4 |
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Quote (Menace) Minority groups are socially and economically excluded, communities where minority live are economically segregated , banks don't move in, real estate is crap and the GOVERNMENT instead of redistributing wealth accordingly throughout such communities they usually go around. So please don't put yourself in a black man's shoes, any poor person can access social programs, usually you can't find such programs in your community because your community is white and not economically segregated, you know why you can find such programs in black communities ? because you have some bourgeois bleeding heart liberals that feel comfortable whit themselves and guilty conscience free because they put such centers in such communities
there are section 8 houses on my street (literally on my street, within throwing-rock distance) and they are run by the slumlord type, but I see white AND blacks in those houses just raking in welfare. there is actually a family that I honestly believe doesn't work, but lives off of welfare programs. their car never leaves the driveway, they have like 4 kids (more kids=more assistance money), and they just sit out in their lawn all day smoking cigarettes and cooking food on a grill outside.
anyways, that's beside the point.
Quote (Menace) Minority groups are socially and economically excluded
My fault? Quote (Menace) banks don't move in, real estate is crap
My fault? Quote (Menace) , usually you can't find such programs in your community because your community is white and not economically segregated
not true. There is actually a 4 block radius of mostly section 8 housing that starts at the end of my street, and all the houses are just about the same size/look as mine. but like i said, my mom makes JUST above the amount (i think it's about 100 bucks) to get the assistance. but on another note, why don't the minorty groups.. fuck it, fuck color, white don't POOR folks in general stop bitching and just make for themselves? that's what i'm having to do, and that's how i've been raised. any time my mom has asked for help, we were turned down or put on a 6-month waiting list. so instead of bitching, she just picked up 2 jobs. instead of bitching right now, i'm just saying "fuck assistance" and I have a job because i know the assistance won't come to me anyways.
so why doesn't the working class do the same? be self-reliant? i know this will sound stupid, but really. just work hard in school, stay away from drugs (i hate the drug war and i'm totally against the majority of restrictions on drugs, but drugs will fuck a kid up), and just man up and start putting in work? given, i haven't been raised in an extremely rough neighborhood where i am pressured to sell drugs or anything, but economically, we still are having to scrape up change (not literally but you know) to keep the lights on. TL:DR- why doesn't the working class just do for themselves? isn't relying on the social system just sort of perpetuating that same system that is holding them down?
Life's a bitch and I'm just along for the ride.
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| Menace |
Date: Friday, 01/Apr/11, 9:34 PM | Message # 5 |
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Quote (ilikebacon3000) My fault? no, just stop bitching. Quote (ilikebacon3000)
not true. There is actually a 4 block radius of mostly section 8 housing that starts at the end of my street, and all the houses are just about the same size/look as mine. but like i said, my mom makes JUST above the amount (i think it's about 100 bucks) to get the assistance. This proves my point, regardless of your color you still get social services, so please stop bitching, i don't see anyone bitching about this shit, just you. Quote (ilikebacon3000) but on another note, why don't the minorty groups.. fuck it, fuck color, white don't POOR folks in general stop bitching and just make for themselves? that's what i'm having to do, and that's how i've been raised. any time my mom has asked for help, we were turned down or put on a 6-month waiting list. so instead of bitching, she just picked up 2 jobs. instead of bitching right now, i'm just saying "fuck assistance" and I have a job because i know the assistance won't come to me anyways. so why doesn't the working class do the same? be self-reliant? i know this will sound stupid, but really. just work hard in school, stay away from drugs (i hate the drug war and i'm totally against the majority of restrictions on drugs, but drugs will fuck a kid up), and just man up and start putting in work? given, i haven't been raised in an extremely rough neighborhood where i am pressured to sell drugs or anything, but economically, we still are having to scrape up change (not literally but you know) to keep the lights on. TL:DR- why doesn't the working class just do for themselves? isn't relying on the social system just sort of perpetuating that same system that is holding them down? We work all of our lives , we literally die working, if you claim to have some class consciousness as you show here, then you should know that scabs are scabs and will suck on the tit of the state, plus don't put yourself in miserable situations where people do ANYTHING. So please don't judge no one, people do many things because of sheer poverty and hunger, don't be the moral tyrant because life's crazy and you can't know what awaits you in the future. Back to the topic, we actually work, work until we die just look around there are a few scabs but most of us actually work very hard, when you are part of the working class you are condemned to a life of servitude, you work until you bleed and still can't rise above ( there are a few cases that raised above but the people in general don't) that's the thing about working people, we live by wages ,we live on what other people gives us, we barely can save money to invest. Capitalists keep our own fruits of labor ( why you think self employed live a decent life? because they are entitled to their own fruits of labor) nobody takes a part of their labor, they enjoy all of it, if your labor is produced collectively then collectively you and your coworkers are entitled to the full fruits of that labor. So its about this, its about non-labor income which capitalists use to rob you, they disguise themselves in CEO's or managers etc. they create HIERARCHIES which are useless etc. So we boil down again to HIERARCHY and capitalism 
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| ilikebacon3000 |
Date: Saturday, 02/Apr/11, 0:45 AM | Message # 6 |
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Emcees
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i've been working in an actual work establishment for about a week and a half now, and i already see that even in a small resteraunt, there is a fucked up worker-boss relationship.
my managers (except 2 of them that are cool as fuck) don't do any actual work. they only work with customers when someone is complaining, they don't make the food, they simply walk around giving people jobs to do... half the time i do my jobs/tasks without having to be told anyways, just cause i have decent work ethic, in my opinion.
anyways, i do see what you mean now about collective earning and whatnot.. i think just seeing how a typical workplace is kinda helped shed some light on it.
the franchise managers, the people behind the curtains don't do anything fucking work. they just manipulate the money and the market, right? that's what it seems like. it's also bullshit that we have to clean dirty shit diareehia toilets and we get paid minimum wage, while the others are getting 7 figure salaries. like why does it work like that? why the fuck don't people realize that shit is fucked up? i mean i don't even consider myself a libertarian socialist or a collectivist or anything of that sort really, but i still think the chain-of-power is fucked and there needs to be more leverage.
Life's a bitch and I'm just along for the ride.
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| ilikebacon3000 |
Date: Saturday, 02/Apr/11, 0:46 AM | Message # 7 |
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Emcees
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and i don't even have it the worst.
i work with a lady who has 4 kids and is trying to support them on a minimum wage check. now THAT'S bullshit. and she is honestly the best person i work with. she treats me with respect and encourages me when i do something good and is just a really really really good person to work with, but she don't get paid shit.
Life's a bitch and I'm just along for the ride.
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| Adam |
Date: Saturday, 02/Apr/11, 1:09 AM | Message # 8 |
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Hey its survival of the fittest when it comes to jobs and stuff. especially now since unless you have a college degree you are pretty much out of luck.
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| ilikebacon3000 |
Date: Saturday, 02/Apr/11, 11:32 AM | Message # 9 |
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Emcees
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^Ever heard of affirmative action? It's not about who is best equipped for the job anymore.
Life's a bitch and I'm just along for the ride.
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| EmSeeD |
Date: Monday, 11/Apr/11, 3:48 AM | Message # 10 |
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Quote (ilikebacon3000) Why are minorities, (and me being honest here) and especially blacks in America, so quick to accuse people of being racist? obviously because they've been mistreated and oppressed because their race so anything like that is sensitive for them, sounds like they were wrong but all that shit is really sensitive for them is there a literal indian card? i don't see what the big deal is since they had their land taken away from them and were nearly wiped out then given that shitty land where nothing grows, so i think a small discount isn't a big deal i don't know much about the affirmative action, but racial minorities have been basically bred to be poor by the ruling class so to me its slightly balancing things back out
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| Ratmn |
Date: Monday, 25/Apr/11, 11:08 PM | Message # 11 |
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Quote (ilikebacon3000) Ever heard of affirmative action? Yeah, that's a cool ass track on "It Was Written". I loved it!
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