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Are Latinos/Hispanics considered a race in America?
ThaScience Date: Tuesday, 01/Sep/09, 8:30 AM | Message # 1

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from what ive been hearing in the past few years online from Americans is very different to what I hear from south american people in person.
im confused. %)


eboyd Date: Tuesday, 01/Sep/09, 1:16 PM | Message # 2

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It gets very complicated. Most of the time all people of Native Southern American (usually Aztecan/Mayan) heritage get lumped together as Latin/Hispanic (in California you call them Latin. Hispanic is disrespectful), however, depending on where you are, some people of non-Mexican/Puerto Rican/Cuban descent that could be considered "Latin" will make sure to let you know that they are Guatemalan for example and will sometimes even go as far as to take offense to being called Mexican (if from CA/TX/NM), Puerto Rican (if from NY) or Cuban (if from Florida). And then you get into the people from Spain and Italy. Technically those countries' languages have their roots heavily implanted in Latin but neither of them would ever be considered a Latin country (well, MAYBE Spain) and therefore the people in the US from those nations wouldn't be considered Latin, so it is kind of a strange situation here.

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Menace Date: Tuesday, 01/Sep/09, 1:54 PM | Message # 3

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And then you get into the people from Spain and Italy. Technically those countries' languages have their roots heavily implanted in Latin but neither of them would ever be considered a Latin country (well, MAYBE Spain) and therefore the people in the US from those nations wouldn't be considered Latin, so it is kind of a strange situation here.

actually yes those countries are considered LATIN these are the ORIGINAL LATIN COUNTRIES Spain , Italy , Portugal , Romania , France . These countries and their people are the descends of the Ancient Romans and their language is a romance or as people know it a LATIN language so don't get it twisted.

As for Latinos or "Hispanics" they are not a "race" they are a "ethnicity" they are called Lations or Hispanics because most of them trace their roots in the Iberian Peninsula or what is known today as Spain and Portugal a Latino or Hispanic is a dude that's half Spanish or Portuguese and half Native American or African that's a LATINO and that's why they call them Latinos because they have roots in the LATIN COUNTRY OF SPAIN and that's why is LATINO


ThaScience Date: Tuesday, 01/Sep/09, 2:16 PM | Message # 4

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to tell u the truth menace this is a bate thread, I already knew everything what u said but i wanted to know what other people from america thought, and what eric said is what ive been hearing.

but this is the scenario ive come across. a black person, 100% african from Dominican Republic isnt black, but is Latino cos they speak Spanish? n ive been there n there mostly dark skin black, then mixed then white. but All of them are Latino. for me that word dont exist, like we say here in london. they wither black, mixed race (black/white/native.. either of the 3) or white.

like umm, J-Lo.. Mixed. probably from native n white, (maybe 4+ generations ago some black. who knows.)
AZ.. Black.
Che.. white. (argentianian, with spanish/irish roots)

but they are 3 different ppl. but No, cos they spk Spanish they are Latino. well ppl say AZ is black, but most black dominicans say there not black but latino..

this is where the confusion for me comes in.

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Menace Date: Tuesday, 01/Sep/09, 2:56 PM | Message # 5

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to tell u the truth menace this is a bate thread, I already knew everything what u said but i wanted to know what other people from america thought, and what eric said is what ive been hearing.

no you didn't know cause you still confused

people that speak Spanish/Portuguese and are South AMERICAN or Caribbean are LATINOS because all of them are the descendants of the Native people that were rapped by the Spanish conquistadors LATINO is a hybrid ethnicity and culture of Spanish/Portuguese and various Native ethnicities and cultures it does not limit to just Mayan's or Aztec's the African slaves brought into the Caribbean that mated whit the Spanish are considering Latino too because they trace their roots in SPAIN too for you Africans are BLACK , Europeans are White and Asians are Yellow it's not like that is way complicated if i am Black it does not tell you nothing i might be half white but you can't really see that until i tell you or you trace my ancestors


ThaScience Date: Tuesday, 01/Sep/09, 3:08 PM | Message # 6

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you really think I didnt know any of that?

To put it in plain english, im not confused why people say what they do with the last bit of the paragraph of the last comment I said.
I mean, its really Dumb and Weird that they do say it, and I wanna hear an American perspective from it.. not you going over info we already know.


Menace Date: Tuesday, 01/Sep/09, 3:19 PM | Message # 7

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I mean, its really Dumb and Weird that they do say it, and I wanna hear an American perspective from it.. not you going over info we already know.

well that's my fucking POINT is not weird and not DUMB because LATINO'S demographically speaking have an unique ethnic cultural and social identity so to you say is dumb that they say it is very disrespectful towards Latinos and is not dumb because there is an actual ETHNICITY there LATINO is an actual ETHNICITY so it isn't dumb at all THE END


ThaScience Date: Tuesday, 01/Sep/09, 3:28 PM | Message # 8

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trying to make urself look like the good guy huh.
im not disrespecting anyones races.
im just saying its weird how a obvious black or white person become latino jus cos they speak spanish and born in lets say columbia or puerto rico.
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J-Breakz Date: Tuesday, 01/Sep/09, 4:06 PM | Message # 9

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yeah i get confused and im latino, lol. I didn't no being called hispanic is disrespectful, hahaha. I thought ppl from spain call themselves hispanic but it often gets confused for latinos. Another thing is mexicans here call this PR girl black because she is of african ancestry. She gets frustrated tho and always tells them to call her PRican lol.

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eboyd Date: Tuesday, 01/Sep/09, 8:04 PM | Message # 10

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Menace, I know the facts. I was speaking solely of the American perception of what the Latino ethnicity is and most Americans (are dumb) think Spaniards/Portuguese/etc. Aren't Latino.

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Menace Date: Tuesday, 01/Sep/09, 8:50 PM | Message # 11

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Aren't Latino.

well they aren't they are Latin my whole point was there is a difference between Latin and Latino while Latino implies native American or African ancestry Latin implies only Ancient Roman ancestry tough linguistically both are the same but on the ethnic part they are way different that's what it divides Latino's from Latins


Menace Date: Tuesday, 01/Sep/09, 9:31 PM | Message # 12

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how is it dumb we have a completely different culture. if your black and born in south America your not gonna be acting like an African cause you don't have the same traditional clothing.food,and general way of life except for the fact that were all poor and some similarities in the music you can bitch and whine that there's only a couple of colours and blah blah blah but to a latino it don't matter cause how we live and our traditions pass all boarders of colour. if none of that made any sense just tell me and i'll rephrase it cause im a little high right now

exactly he's fucking stuck up he has that white and black imagine and nothing else after the colonial era new cultures arose cultures and ethnic groups that were the hybrids of the colonial settlers and the native people most people from the Caribbean and South America are these kind of people are the products of this hybridization 2 cultures one European and one native American created a whole new ethnic group called for example LATINOS he thinks if your black then your African nope maybe your part African but that does not mean shit you can be part of this new ethnic group that arose from the colonial days i mean this dude TheScience if he goes in Brazil for example and tells a Pardo dude that he's African cause he's black he gonna get his ass whooped cause Pardo's are somewhat black but they are indigenous too and they have an entire unique culture


ThaScience Date: Tuesday, 01/Sep/09, 10:47 PM | Message # 13

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exactly he's fucking stuck up he has that white and black imagine and nothing else after the colonial era new cultures arose cultures and ethnic groups that were the hybrids of the colonial settlers and the native people most people from the Caribbean and South America are these kind of people are the products of this hybridization 2 cultures one European and one native American created a whole new ethnic group called for example LATINOS he thinks if your black then your African nope maybe your part African but that does not mean shit you can be part of this new ethnic group that arose from the colonial days i mean this dude TheScience if he goes in Brazil for example and tells a Pardo dude that he's African cause he's black he gonna get his ass whooped cause Pardo's are somewhat black but they are indigenous too and they have an entire unique culture

you didnt get my point at all. thats like the 2nd/3rd time. i said that there are mixed ppl of native n whatever. but i was talkin about the 100%er white or black person who gets called latin cos they spk spanish.
n yes i understand latinos come in many colours, which is why i ORIGINALLY asked if/why it is considerd as One race in america. i bet u still dont get it.

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joker Date: Tuesday, 01/Sep/09, 11:19 PM | Message # 14

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[quote=ThaScience]but i was talkin about the 100%er white or black person who gets called latin cos they spk spanish.
n yes i understand latinos come in many colours, which is why i ORIGINALLY asked if/why it is[/quote]
why would you be called a latino if your not born in latin america your making no fucking sense right now...
Menace Date: Wednesday, 02/Sep/09, 10:37 AM | Message # 15

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why would you be called a latino if your not born in latin america your making no fucking sense right now...

exactly i already told him if your born in Latin America or the Caribbean then your Latino


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