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Lol no offense, but who?
It seems like sodr is the only left, besides me, but I'm really more of a question starter/watcher. I drop in, ask a question, then watch you guys kill each other over it, while at the same time having my question answered.
ritesofpasage, abanks for a short time, ALCATRAZ (though i think EmSeeD banned him), and a few others. it's basically s0dr2, ritesofpasage and any random person who decides to quickly chime in, including, on occasion, EmSeeD in a less argumentative (as in debate oriented) way versus me, Menace and I_Guy, so it isn't like one side is outmatched. people just often back out because they either find that they don't want to debate it anymore or they realize they aren't prepared to debate because they haven't studied up enough yet and are often themselves unsure of their beliefs.
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Yeah man but its NONSTOP.
it's no more non-stop than any other non-religious website. once again, go to the links from my comment on the last page. people constantly banter back and forth about religion and atheism there in music threads, off-topic threads, etc. there's even this one Christian extremist member there (we're talking the "rock & roll, hip hop, etc. (basically anything that doesn't specifically praise the Lord) is devil music" type) named SGWinn and she is constantly attacking artists because they cuss, talk about profane things, etc., and those conversations often turn into long, drawn out debates about religion in which she is actually attacked for her religious beliefs. in other words, most sites, including that one (which is a very popular website that both me and sodr frequent), condone no holds barred attacks on religion, which is something we specifically banned, and they still have highly religious members.
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But thats the thing, I wouldnt say that. Because I have respect for my fellow man unlike these little young cats up on this site
i understand that. here's the thing though, that occurs everywhere you go, and for us it is on a much more frequent and serious basis. usually we don't have to put up with atheist jokes; we have to put up with religious folks forcing religion upon us and telling us we are immoral for believing what we believe and that we shall be condemned to eternal torment in the afterlife and yet and still, in the face of obvious social and even political persecution, which is something that, in America, a person does not have to face for being Christian, we can laugh at ourselves and the stereotypical person who follows our beliefs. you can't stop someone from using their free speech and such free speech, considering it doesn't happen that much at all (you may see it misplaced in a thread somewhere every few weeks), should not deter someone from signing up for this website, especially considering it doesn't deter anyone from any other non-religious website. we have hip hop topics where hip hop is discussed. they occasionally get slightly side tracked which may, on a rare occasion, wind up resulting in a religious or political quip, or you will see the occasional village idiot like ALCATRAZ ruin an entire thread using personal attacks, but that gets nipped in the bud; ALCATRAZ, as far as i know, has been banned.
anyways, the whole point here is that this site is actually stricter on preventing attacks on religion than virtually any other non-religious site on the net, and i have never seen anyone complain at those sites that there are too many attacks on religion.
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And besides man, what are you doing exactly? You making moves? What are you doing for Hip Hop besides trying to get everybody to become communists or anarchists? How is any of that crap relevant to the common man who aint into all that stuff and just wants to enjoy some good Hip Hop? Aint nobody trying to overthrow the government anymore man most people just want to live normal lives over here and hear flows from the common man doing his thing. Something people can relate to. People are trying to get by in life and be normal. The alternative is fools like we hear on the radio and thats not even an option.
on the contrary, Pensmoke, if you just pay attention to the news a bit you will see this is false. both left and right wing folks are becoming strongly concerned with American politics. we have a president who got elected because he represented change, which is exactly what revolution is. there was so much civil unrest during the Bush administration that we are lucky that civil war didn't break out. and now, with taxes on the rise again, the right-wing, lead by pundits such as Glen Beck, have started a revival of the Tea Party Protesters, Texas has been talking of seceding from the United States, etc. this is arguably the most politically active period in the US since the 60's. and the US isn't the only place where people are unhappy with their government. trying to get people to become anarchists (which is, inherently, also a form of socialism or communism) simply means trying to get people to open their minds to the social issues that they are attempting to attack. Tea Party Protesters, for example, while their intentions are good, are misguided as to the true problems underlying their gripes and Menace and i are simply trying to assist people in realizing this. that is the reason we openly discuss our political views on a hip hop forum; that and the fact that it (republican capitalism) directly effects hip hop and is the reason for the existence of Soulja Boy and Lil Wayne among others. this was realized by Public Enemy, Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy, Saul Williams, Dalek, etc. and that is why they too push their opinions in their music. also, knowledge has long been one of the most important, if not the very most important elements of hip hop culture. discussions relating to knowledge, therefore, are directly pertinent to hip hop discussion. political theory is most definitely knowledge related and understanding politics and economics helps us understand the evolution of hip hop. and so you ask "What are you doing for Hip Hop besides trying to get everybody to become communists or anarchists?" and i respond that by saying that by doing that very thing we are taking action to make the environment in which hip hop evolves more conducive to the betterment of hip hop itself.
. Internet was invented for porn and talking dirty . 
LOL . No but on the real every person whit BASIC COMMON SENSE will take that as a harmless joke. Its not about religion its about common sense .
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