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abanks47 Date: Sunday, 14/Feb/10, 9:23 PM | Message # 31

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And both satirize people acting like our boy ALCATRAZ and both are top notch cultural , racial and social critiques of African-American hypocrisy. If ALCATRAZ was cool then he wouldn't approach this dude the way he did he would approach him like you did or like Paul Mooney approached that Seinfeld Kramer dude when he said nigger on stage

not really. alctaraz was offended by the use of the word used, where the show and movie glorify the use of the word and the public embrace it, which than causes the word to become second nature and watered down to those who do not know its history. alctraz may have been inconsiderate but in no way is he on bamboozled level. come now homie. nor am i claiming this is bacon
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shake how can you not see it was sarcastic because i wouldn't be that obviously hypocritical.

although technically if you look at the context in which they used the racial slurs, then in context alcatraz's comment was more racist.

you guys know bacon isn't racist and that he didn't write it in a racist context right?

here read this written by LyricalContent (who is black, so don't cry)

Niggaz, Niguaz,Nigguhz, & more Niggers


apologies didnt know u were being sarcastic. i do of course no he meant no disrespect. bacon's heart seems to be in the right place
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:'( abanks you racist, don't you know just mentioning that word makes you racist regardless of what context you use it in?

OK dude lol, at first i got hella heated at this, i thought u were calling me racist and hella missed on your sarcasm again. i wrote a big fuck you but realized it was not in that way (it aint right?). i saw this episode and didnt hate/love it. i dont like jesse jackson tho
KISS IT

Once again im all for art, and totally against censorship but people have a right to what they like and dislike, and i happen to dislike the context in which nigger was used. seems unnecessary, over-used and pointless

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and read the 3 niggah poem, didnt like it. :D


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ilikebacon3000 Date: Sunday, 14/Feb/10, 9:50 PM | Message # 32

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Once again im all for art, and totally against censorship but people have a right to what they like and dislike, and i happen to dislike the context in which nigger was used. seems unnecessary, over-used and pointless


See, I can respect that. I can respect what you think, even though I might disagree. It's simply a matter of how you feel about things and how you see stuff, and sometimes people just don't understand the concept of respectful discussion and debate.


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ALCATRAZ Date: Monday, 15/Feb/10, 0:04 AM | Message # 33

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abanks47 Date: Monday, 15/Feb/10, 0:13 AM | Message # 34

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LMFAO. hahahaha

A WELL DRESSED SKELETON SLOWLY CUTS YOUR THROAT.

"I Have No Fear Whatsoever of Anybody or Anything" -Malcolm X

“those who consider themselves the most adamant adherents of “real” hip-hop can also be the least knowledgeable.” –Adilifu Nama; an excert from his perception of Nas’s “Genesis”

EmSeeD Date: Monday, 15/Feb/10, 0:33 AM | Message # 35

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damn this guys been digging up dirt from 2008 on people lol. i admit that comment is a bit stupid, lets move on.

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ALCATRAZ Date: Monday, 15/Feb/10, 3:10 AM | Message # 36

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Right. My comments are downright racist, but Menace? Just a bit stupid. Makes perfect sense.

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EmSeeD Date: Monday, 15/Feb/10, 3:54 AM | Message # 37

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i never said downright racist, just said techically more racist than ilikebacons comments, and i only said that because you accuse bacon of being racist. i know Menace isn't racist, he was just annoyed coz Meth was saying some crap about the Black Panthers, i think Menace was saying the Black Panthers did more for black people than Obama ever did, yet in 2008 people were on Obama's dick, i guess he may have felt that compared to the black panthers obama is a house nigger,. i don't hold anything against Menace for a comment he wrote in 2008 while he was annoyed. people have gotta learn to let shit go

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ALCATRAZ Date: Monday, 15/Feb/10, 12:32 PM | Message # 38

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i know Menace isn't racist

Since you love defending him so much, why don't you explain this.


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J-Breakz Date: Tuesday, 16/Feb/10, 3:13 AM | Message # 39

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How so? Honest question no disrespect. Explain.

No offense taken at all lol. It was a poorly written poem. But don't use that as an excuse to stop writing poetry. The only way you get better is thru practice. People may disagree with me but I feel the best artist is able to present a message in the clearest and most attractive way possible. Just how essay writers are able to present a very clear message while attracting readers by using excellent diction (obviously, I'm not one of them lol). You're message would be that we are living in a society that is encouraging a superficial and prejudice behavior. However, reading your poem people could actually easily interpret the exact opposite of what you're trying to say. You did do a great job at grabbing peoples attention with the word nigger tho lol.

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this school system forgot about educational lessons, and it is now run by political prisoners forced to teach racism, sexism, and economic segregation I see plenty of hypocrisy across this nigger nation.

Many white supremacists believe that the school system teaches our kids pinko-commie ideas and forces many double-standard racist ideas into them, and obviously "nigger nation" just attracts their attention even more.

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Niggers make up an important population, fuck USA, we are T.N.N., the nigger nation...

Many white supremacists believe this nation is being ran by a bunch of niggers, especially since obama is in charge now.

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Yet CNN controls your thoughts like mind control activation, and creates no energy to think, your brain suffers from ignorant exasperation.

Many white supremacists believe that the news media has an extreme liberal bias.

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And when your pink wrinkles shrivel, you will see that it was all pre determined for us to fail and fall, stay silent and keep your thoughts away from all, then improve your body image at your local shopping mall.

Many white supremacists are fascists that believe our top priority should be the well being of the country. Patriotism. And we should not worry so much about materialistic crap.

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So step down for a minute and look around me, so many teenage whores-to-be, creating pregnancy, no editing only thoughts from me, because erasers create the oppurtunity to tell you who to be.

Many white supremacists believe that feminism is evil and has encouraged women to be whores and screwing different ppl instead of being "pure" and serving their husband or future husband.


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Dookie Date: Tuesday, 16/Feb/10, 8:33 AM | Message # 40

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Man this is really fucking nice. I like it.

i like it too

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in school, the rarely teach anything positive about african americans besides the guy who invented peanut butter, and MLK. They make the black panthers seem like a terrorist group. And sexism is very subtle.

the same for the rest of the "white" based education. in australia all the focus is on captain cook and how supposedly great and awesome he was. and not much focus is on the indigenous history or dreamtime. very much racism is everywhere here, in unnecessary stereotyping jokes and other bullshit. also we have some jumped up little arrogant dooshbag called rudd who looks like the milky bar kid thinking his apology for the stolen generation incident makes everything ok. and his "intervention" is almost auschwitz-esque.

you couldve just mentioned the media as a whole too btw. j-breakz i think the context of the poem rules out white supremacist support.

All media outlets are mind control, regardless of whether the shit is CNN, FOX, CBS, ABC whatever. Left and Right Wing are both wings of the same bird of prey, go anarchism. Obama IS a house negro. Black Panthers are heroes. White Supremacists can all go play incest. Stop getting caught up in a sports team mentality. Stop getting jumped up over contexts and racism, its not as if hes running around using the word to demean and hurt.

menace was right. obama is a superb actor. i feel sorry for people who got caught up in the hype. the US is in no better shape than it was before obama. figureheads dont really do much for change in the long run. it wasnt the best articulated sentence, but alot of african americans thought that he would bring real change, everyone did, after millions of dollars funneled into his advertising and marketing campaign

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Many white supremacists believe this nation is being ran by a bunch of niggers, especially since obama is in charge now.

how many in obamas cabinet are of african descent? white supremacists are as dumb as dog shit, no wonder why they are the easiest to control.

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Want to kick rhymes off the top of they head
Word, what go around come around I figure
Now we got white kids callin' themselves niggas
The tables turned as the crosses burned
Remember You Must Learn"


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J-Breakz Date: Tuesday, 16/Feb/10, 1:48 PM | Message # 41

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how many in obamas cabinet are of african descent? white supremacists are as dumb as dog shit, no wonder why they are the easiest to control.

That wasn't my point. My point was White supremacists could relate to the poem.


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Dookie Date: Thursday, 18/Feb/10, 11:26 AM | Message # 42

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My point was White supremacists could relate to the poem.

my apologies, they could in ways but not in others.

By the way i should also correct myself obama isnt just a house negro, he is also a house cracker. house negro/cracker. seeing as that would be unfair to his white heritage aswell, i read somewhere hes not only related to dick cheney but warren buffett aswell, funny that all the power people seem to be distantly related in someway.

is negro considered an offensive term to those it applies to, its probably a stupid question however i dont want to unknowingly offend some people here when i dont mean to.

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guessin by lack of response, im guessin so. i must be some kind of uber bigot. :S


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abanks47 Date: Thursday, 18/Feb/10, 11:50 AM | Message # 43

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negro is not offensive IMO, just extremely dated. and house cracker holds no sway. house niggers/negros were once real. those were the blacks who were allowed entrance to the slavemasters house to do chores and what not and were sometimes hated on by the other slaves. im sure you knew this already

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guessin by lack of response, im guessin so. i must be some kind of uber bigot. :S

naw, you coo


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“those who consider themselves the most adamant adherents of “real” hip-hop can also be the least knowledgeable.” –Adilifu Nama; an excert from his perception of Nas’s “Genesis”

Dookie Date: Friday, 19/Feb/10, 7:52 AM | Message # 44

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naw, you coo

aww thanks :P.

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and house cracker holds no sway

true, but then again, i consider anyone who follows the orders of fascists a "house" person. running around eager to please their taskmasters like a domestic pet.

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im sure you knew this already

yes


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eboyd Date: Friday, 19/Feb/10, 6:02 PM | Message # 45

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those were the blacks who were allowed entrance to the slavemasters house to do chores and what not and were sometimes hated on by the other slaves.

You ever heard of the Willie Lynch model? Slave masters allowed the lighter skinned slaves in the house and gave them certain privileges that the dark slaves didn't have in order to keep the slaves preoccupied at war with each other to prevent uprisings. This model, I would argue, is still in use today, but in a different form. Now it gives advantages to white people in order to keep white and non-white (blacks, latinos, asians, etc.) people within the lower class at war while the upper class of all races gets over on everyone.


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