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| Dookie |
Date: Monday, 21/Dec/09, 2:20 AM | Message # 91 |
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the word only has power if people react in the way the racist asshole wants them too. i find it highly hypocritical people of other ethnicities cant use "nigga" in the way that people of african descent use it as a term of endearment.
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| eboyd |
Date: Monday, 21/Dec/09, 2:39 AM | Message # 92 |
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Quote (Dookie) the word only has power if people react in the way the racist asshole wants them too. i find it highly hypocritical people of other ethnicities cant use "nigga" in the way that people of african descent use it as a term of endearment. i agree.
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| ALCATRAZ |
Date: Monday, 21/Dec/09, 2:51 AM | Message # 93 |
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| ilikebacon3000 |
Date: Monday, 21/Dec/09, 7:03 PM | Message # 94 |
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| abanks47 |
Date: Monday, 21/Dec/09, 7:19 PM | Message # 95 |
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Quote the word only has power if people react in the way the racist asshole wants them too. i find it highly hypocritical people of other ethnicities cant use "nigga" in the way that people of african descent use it as a term of endearment. Black people did that for a few hundred years, hearing the word and doing nothing, we we're enslaved at the time.
A WELL DRESSED SKELETON SLOWLY CUTS YOUR THROAT. "I Have No Fear Whatsoever of Anybody or Anything" -Malcolm X “those who consider themselves the most adamant adherents of “real” hip-hop can also be the least knowledgeable.” –Adilifu Nama; an excert from his perception of Nas’s “Genesis” 
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| J-Breakz |
Date: Monday, 21/Dec/09, 7:42 PM | Message # 96 |
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Quote (abanks47) Black people did that for a few hundred years, hearing the word and doing nothing, we we're enslaved at the time. Actually many african slaves would break their tools and be very unproductive in response to the mistreatment they received by slave owners.
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| abanks47 |
Date: Monday, 21/Dec/09, 7:56 PM | Message # 97 |
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Quote Actually many african slaves would break their tools and be very unproductive in response to the mistreatment they received by slave owners. 1 of every few thousand blacks don't count. I'm not saying they relished and loved to hear the word, but at the end of the day they didn't do enough and therefore remained enslaved. do you really think breaking a tool is the type of action I am talking about? I'm speaking of actions of the Nat Turner variety.
A WELL DRESSED SKELETON SLOWLY CUTS YOUR THROAT. "I Have No Fear Whatsoever of Anybody or Anything" -Malcolm X “those who consider themselves the most adamant adherents of “real” hip-hop can also be the least knowledgeable.” –Adilifu Nama; an excert from his perception of Nas’s “Genesis” 
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| J-Breakz |
Date: Monday, 21/Dec/09, 8:47 PM | Message # 98 |
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Quote (abanks47) 1 of every few thousand blacks don't count. I'm not saying they relished and loved to hear the word, but at the end of the day they didn't do enough and therefore remained enslaved. do you really think breaking a tool is the type of action I am talking about? I'm speaking of actions of the Nat Turner variety. it was more than just 1 of every few thousand blacks, there were numerous small and large rebellions, and most common were runaway slaves. But that's besides the point. I still don't see what people like you exactly want with the word... you want NOBODY to say it at all? For it to be completely eliminated from the english language? Or you want it to only be limited to black people? or only african americans? The thing is none of that is going to happend. There is always going to be racists that use it to make it seem like black people are smaller than whites. There's no way you can stop it, because just like what Alcatraz said, this world isn't perfect. The best we can do is take away power from the word so there's no point in using it, atleast in a negative connotation.
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| abanks47 |
Date: Monday, 21/Dec/09, 9:02 PM | Message # 99 |
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Quote it was more than just 1 of every few thousand blacks, there were numerous small and large rebellions, and most common were runaway slaves. But that's besides the point. I still don't see what people like you exactly want with the word... you want NOBODY to say it at all? For it to be completely eliminated from the english language? Or you want it to only be limited to black people? or only african americans? The thing is none of that is going to happend. There is always going to be racists that use it to make it seem like black people are smaller than whites. There's no way you can stop it, because just like what Alcatraz said, this world isn't perfect. The best we can do is take away power from the word so there's no point in using it, atleast in a negative connotation. here is my official view on the use of the word. I live in America, land of the "free" and there is freedom of speech. people are entitled to say what it is they want and that includes the N word. I dont care if someone wants to say it, but I also have the freedom to not respect the people who use it. I feel I am entitled to be offended and not want to continue a conversation with someone who at the start of a conversation refers to me as nigger/nigga, whether there black, white, etc. I wont react harshly to them, just will lose some respect for them, depending on the phrasing and the context its used in.
A WELL DRESSED SKELETON SLOWLY CUTS YOUR THROAT. "I Have No Fear Whatsoever of Anybody or Anything" -Malcolm X “those who consider themselves the most adamant adherents of “real” hip-hop can also be the least knowledgeable.” –Adilifu Nama; an excert from his perception of Nas’s “Genesis” 
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| J-Breakz |
Date: Monday, 21/Dec/09, 9:08 PM | Message # 100 |
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Quote (abanks47) I dont care if someone wants to say it, but I also have the freedom to not respect the people who use it. I completely agree.
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| Dookie |
Date: Tuesday, 22/Dec/09, 1:06 AM | Message # 101 |
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Quote (abanks47) Black people did that for a few hundred years, hearing the word and doing nothing, we we're enslaved at the time. We are still enslaved by the social system, social/psychological warfare still exists and thats how they play us off against eachother, create divided popular opinion and out of sheer ignorance a majority of humans get a sports team mentality and want to beat the shit out of the person who supports the other "team" or in this case opinion instead of going "well you believe this and i believe this, lets discuss this in an intellectual sense see if we can find out the real shit" and if they still are at the same conclusions then instead of "lets agree to disagree" and moving on, you have the zealots fervently having to prove their point regardless of whether its true or not, hence lack of spine when it comes to uniting regardless of beliefs in anything. The same counts for division with skin colour and cultures. People need to get past this and realize its rich vs poor. I have used the word with my png/fijian friend but we are like brothers pretty much and i dont use it in a demeaning way, only utmost respect, according to one of my "ignorant" associates i watch too much black people stuff (cause i smoke a bit of weed every now and then, and coincidentaly like hip hop music) :P. Ill respect the persons wishes if i use it and they are uncomfortable with it and dont want me to use it, i find the racist stereotyping mindview of quite a few white aussies annoying and i point out to them "being racist eh". I have to put up with the fact my good for nothing father is a neo nazi, so its probably a combination of rebellion against him and my love for hip hop & the culture associated and i consider myself black on the inside anyways. regardless i also noticed nas used "nigger" not "nigga", if anything i think it was a publicity stunt now. EDIT: Which was obvious from the start anyways lol but yeah.
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Message edited by Dookie - Tuesday, 22/Dec/09, 1:09 AM
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| abanks47 |
Date: Tuesday, 22/Dec/09, 3:05 AM | Message # 102 |
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so you didnt just read the conclusion of what me and J-breaks just came too? We seem to be on somewhat on the same page and did not resort to anything petty. He stated his opinion, I stated I disagreed, he fronted me on it and asked for clarification, I gave him clarification and although not sure if he agrees entirely seemed to agree somewhat and I respect him for that. I am a slave to no one. If someone comes up to me going "whats up my nigga" i dont throw my hands up and scream "this mu'fucka". i keep it cool, say whats up, it only really bothers me when cats use it at the end of every sentence. ive actually came pretty damn close to altercation for fronting on somebody to shut up with that shit, but thats just me. Also u from Aus., they use it over there? whom uses it against whom, white to black? does the word have as much of a culture clash as it does in america and do people get as offended by it as they do here? judging by the reactions of the Michael Jackson parody I'd imagine Aussies being fairly light hearted in regards to the n word. not a fact, just an assumption and i apologize if it's wrong.
A WELL DRESSED SKELETON SLOWLY CUTS YOUR THROAT. "I Have No Fear Whatsoever of Anybody or Anything" -Malcolm X “those who consider themselves the most adamant adherents of “real” hip-hop can also be the least knowledgeable.” –Adilifu Nama; an excert from his perception of Nas’s “Genesis” 
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| ilikebacon3000 |
Date: Tuesday, 22/Dec/09, 3:21 AM | Message # 103 |
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It's a fucking word. A word people..... Damn. Now I understand that if you are black and are looking at this comment, you are going to think, "It's a black thang!"... But seriously? SERIOUSLY? There are more important things to fight for than a word. Attack the problem in itself.
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| EmSeeD |
Date: Tuesday, 22/Dec/09, 3:54 AM | Message # 104 |
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i guess its hurtful for black people when some white person calls them a nigger, because it brings up all the slave history etc, how that white person's ancestors kept that very black persons ancestors as slaves, you can't just dismiss this history and when you call a black person this in this context you can't just dismiss it, but i guess in the nigga context its not so bad, i think it is good for the meaning to be changed
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| Dookie |
Date: Tuesday, 22/Dec/09, 7:01 AM | Message # 105 |
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Quote (abanks47) Also u from Aus., they use it over there? whom uses it against whom, white to black? does the word have as much of a culture clash as it does in america and do people get as offended by it as they do here? Yes i am from Aus, no one generally uses it (racist idiots generally use coon or some other stupid word), most of the indigenous peoples use the word cousin cuz or bro and the islanders use bro (although some do use nigga), as they each have their own particular slang. white australians still harbor alot of unnecessary racial stereotyping and views towards indigenous people, islanders and other ethnics and they are the brunt of alot of jokes (mostly the indigenous but pretty much every other ethnic group cop it) you could view it as light hearted, but still its a joke paying out on the particular group, remember the cronulla race riots that happened a few years ago where all these "aussie pride" wankers rolled around beating up lebanese people and other ethnics. in the long run we all have noses, eyes, internal organs etc. No need to apologize, i wouldnt know the full social situation in america and it would be a very new and exciting experience to go to america. Quote (abanks47) If someone comes up to me going "whats up my nigga" i dont throw my hands up and scream "this mu'fucka". i keep it cool, say whats up, it only really bothers me when cats use it at the end of every sentence. ive actually came pretty damn close to altercation for fronting on somebody to shut up with that shit, but thats just me. me and my friend use it very rarely anyways and its more of a natural happening, me and him be talking aways not scrutinizing our words and it pops up a few times in a few sentences, and its not as if we are using it at the end of every sentence or every third or fourth word. haha yeah man perfectly understandable, it would just get annoying some dude using it left right and center, or some idiot who was just using it to try and fit in Quote (abanks47) I am a slave to no one. im not meaning a slave in the terms of bondage, im refering to the system if you believe in that, my view is that its slowly getting worse and worse as time progresses. everyone in the lower echelons of the social pyramid are not literally slaves, but pretty much are mental slaves. it says something when england and america are numbers 5/6 in the top 10 electronic police states in the world. i apologize for the misunderstanding.
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