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Be A Nigger Too?
eboyd Date: Tuesday, 22/Dec/09, 8:13 AM | Message # 106

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^^^and every worker in a capitalistic society is a wage slave.

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ilikebacon3000 Date: Tuesday, 22/Dec/09, 2:24 PM | Message # 107

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shut up

Come back with something more than that man. Something that will at least make me think.
I know I don't understand it because I am white. I will never TRUELY understand the struggle behind it all.
I can't help that.
But seriously, it is a word. A word. W-O-R-D.
Yes, it was involved in..... SO much bullshit. Useless, hurtful bullshit. But is that a reason to hold on to the past?


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EmSeeD Date: Tuesday, 22/Dec/09, 2:27 PM | Message # 108

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Yes i am from Aus, no one generally uses it (racist idiots generally use coon or some other stupid word), most of the indigenous peoples use the word cousin cuz or bro and the islanders use bro (although some do use nigga), as they each have their own particular slang. white australians still harbor alot of unnecessary racial stereotyping and views towards indigenous people, islanders and other ethnics and they are the brunt of alot of jokes (mostly the indigenous but pretty much every other ethnic group cop it) you could view it as light hearted, but still its a joke paying out on the particular group, remember the cronulla race riots that happened a few years ago where all these "aussie pride" wankers rolled around beating up lebanese people and other ethnics. in the long run we all have noses, eyes, internal organs etc. No need to apologize, i wouldnt know the full social situation in america and it would be a very new and exciting experience to go to america.

yeah except for slavery all the jokes they make about african americans they make the exact same jokes about islanders and maori's, although a lot of islanders actually make fun of themselves about it, like jokes about fried chicken etc, i was surprised when i saw they made the same KFC jokes about black people lol (btw i'm half islander).

i think in aus they call middle eastern people "wogs" ay?


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abanks47 Date: Tuesday, 22/Dec/09, 3:41 PM | Message # 109

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It's a fucking word. A word people..... Damn.
Now I understand that if you are black and are looking at this comment, you are going to think, "It's a black thang!"... But seriously? SERIOUSLY? There are more important things to fight for than a word.
Attack the problem in itself.

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Come back with something more than that man. Something that will at least make me think.
I know I don't understand it because I am white. I will never TRUELY understand the struggle behind it all.
I can't help that.
But seriously, it is a word. A word. W-O-R-D.
Yes, it was involved in..... SO much bullshit. Useless, hurtful bullshit. But is that a reason to hold on to the past?

If you just said you wont understand it why are you trying to tell people who do to chill out. you just clearly stated, unless being sarcastic that you can never truly understand the word. if that's the case there's no real need for a response because the answer was passed down by you.
Are you really suggesting i let go of the past? How does one do that? I find it difficult if not impossible to not think of my ancestors and not get somewhat annoyed or emotional at how shit went down. one part of that being the name given to them, which was nigger. The only form of comparrision i can give is if I came up to you and insulted your family, i would imagine you being offended. it was only words but you'd still be offended from what i said would you not, because the words used were offensive and aimed towards your people. same with nigger in my book.

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^^^and every worker in a capitalistic society is a wage slave.

Dont want to get too off topic but i say again, i am slave to no one. material shit don't need it. I work because i am a contributing member of society, and earn my money. i do not feel that makes me a slave by no man's definition.


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ilikebacon3000 Date: Tuesday, 22/Dec/09, 4:01 PM | Message # 110

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If you just said you wont understand it why are you trying to tell people who do to chill out. you just clearly stated, unless being sarcastic that you can never truly understand the word. if that's the case there's no real need for a response because the answer was passed down by you.
Are you really suggesting i let go of the past? How does one do that? I find it difficult if not impossible to not think of my ancestors and not get somewhat annoyed or emotional at how shit went down. one part of that being the name given to them, which was nigger. The only form of comparrision i can give is if I came up to you and insulted your family, i would imagine you being offended. it was only words but you'd still be offended from what i said would you not, because the words used were offensive and aimed towards your people. same with nigger in my book.

But I mean all the slaveowners are dead. I mean what are you going to do, punish every white person because their ancestors were slaveowners? That would be just as racist as me calling you the N word. You can't do a damn thing to change what happened, so is that a reason to stay bitter with people who just happen to be related to someone who was a racist slave owner? I can't help that I am white, and you can't help that you are black. So why sit here and argue about something as pointless as a word?
A damn word shouldn't fade either of us. There are many more problems to worry about than a fuckin word.


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TheWatcher Date: Tuesday, 22/Dec/09, 4:24 PM | Message # 111

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But I mean all the slaveowners are dead.

Where do you get that from?

ilikebacon3000 Date: Tuesday, 22/Dec/09, 4:45 PM | Message # 112

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Where do you get that from?

You know what I mean -_-


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ALCATRAZ Date: Tuesday, 22/Dec/09, 4:58 PM | Message # 113

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There are many more problems to worry about than a fuckin word.

Exactly. So respect our wishes (which you guys have done for the most part) and keep the word to yourselves. Internet is cool, with your white friends is cool too ... But you guys are just gonna be mad if you keep asking permission to say that shit. It's not gonna happen.


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ilikebacon3000 Date: Tuesday, 22/Dec/09, 5:11 PM | Message # 114

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you guys are just gonna be mad if you keep asking permission to say that shi

I never wanted to say the word. I have always thought that when a white person said it, they just looked dumb. Flatout dumb. Even if a mexican says it, I'm still at an odd point. But no, I have gone through my "bling bling wigger phase" and even then, I knew better than to actually say either variation of the word.


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abanks47 Date: Tuesday, 22/Dec/09, 6:38 PM | Message # 115

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But I mean all the slaveowners are dead. I mean what are you going to do, punish every white person because their ancestors were slaveowners? That would be just as racist as me calling you the N word. You can't do a damn thing to change what happened, so is that a reason to stay bitter with people who just happen to be related to someone who was a racist slave owner? I can't help that I am white, and you can't help that you are black. So why sit here and argue about something as pointless as a word?
A damn word shouldn't fade either of us. There are many more problems to worry about than a fuckin word.

Where are you getting this from my posts. I don't hate white people, as i said myself my moms is Italian. You are speaking as if this word held sway only 400 years ago. less than 4 decades ago this was a word that was chewing in black peoples ears on the daily from racists. i don't hold it against there ancestors and i dont even hold it against those who said it, my own grandmother being one of them. as long as people can respect me from here on out by not saying it around me thats fine, adn by that I'd be content. if they cant, its coo, i just find another spot to kick it.
You seem to be the only one arguing this. my mind is made and there is no swaying in this, shit is embedded in my DNA now. This word will forever hold a significant meaning to myself, my family, and anyone I hold dear past, present and future.


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“those who consider themselves the most adamant adherents of “real” hip-hop can also be the least knowledgeable.” –Adilifu Nama; an excert from his perception of Nas’s “Genesis”

ilikebacon3000 Date: Tuesday, 22/Dec/09, 8:25 PM | Message # 116

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don't hold it against there ancestors and i dont even hold it against those who said it, my own grandmother being one of them. as long as people can respect me from here on out by not saying it around me thats fine, adn by that I'd be content. if they cant, its coo, i just find another spot to kick it.

I don't get it.
If it isn't that big of a deal, then whats the point in even arguing over it?


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abanks47 Date: Tuesday, 22/Dec/09, 8:47 PM | Message # 117

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I'm not arguing. to me it's crystal. people have the right to say what they feel but its offensive and i prefer to not associate with cats like that.

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“those who consider themselves the most adamant adherents of “real” hip-hop can also be the least knowledgeable.” –Adilifu Nama; an excert from his perception of Nas’s “Genesis”

ilikebacon3000 Date: Tuesday, 22/Dec/09, 9:00 PM | Message # 118

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I'm not arguing. to me it's crystal. people have the right to say what they feel but its offensive and i prefer to not associate with cats like that.

Completley agreed.
I might not understand, or see it the same way, but you have the complete right to hang with who you want and think how you want.
agree to disagree for now.


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EmSeeD Date: Tuesday, 22/Dec/09, 9:02 PM | Message # 119

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i just saw a new word

"snow-nigger" bahahahaha

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Menace Date: Tuesday, 22/Dec/09, 9:03 PM | Message # 120

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Oh Taylor shut the fuck up :D

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