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Greeny Date: Tuesday, 01/Feb/11, 10:35 PM | Message # 61

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Also, I am disagreeing with ratmn, hardcore isn't gangsta rap from the east. Because it's like different in many ways.

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Adam Date: Tuesday, 01/Feb/11, 10:39 PM | Message # 62

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Wow cool just ignore all the mcs i named and focus on the ones i named form the west very mature.

fuck that its not even about the west its about g-funk and gangsta rap, I hate all that shit.





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Ratmn Date: Tuesday, 01/Feb/11, 10:41 PM | Message # 63

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that's true, but they constructed their lyrics and music in a different sound and manner, that's the thing in music, go to music/art class for example and they will teach you the same i am talking about music in general.

One thing though, they all have the same future.
If they continue doing the same, talking about it, you're going to run out of stories, and pretty much, you'll be a gimmick.
IT has happen to Snoop and Dre.
That's why they do wack shit, to avoid people from noticing.

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Also, I am disagreeing with ratmn, hardcore isn't gangsta rap from the east. Because it's like different in many ways.

Dude, i already gave my point like 2 pages behind.
Read that shit.



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Menace Date: Tuesday, 01/Feb/11, 10:42 PM | Message # 64

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One thing though, they all have the same future.
If they continue doing the same, talking about it, you're going to run out of stories, and pretty much, you'll be a gimmick.
IT has happen to Snoop and Dre.
That's why they do wack shit, to avoid people from noticing.

well they seem to do only whack and mediocre shit, that's why they should retire when you run out of stories and the gimmick is over, you should retire in glory.


Greeny Date: Tuesday, 01/Feb/11, 10:42 PM | Message # 65

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If the only premise that makes you put gangsta rap and harcore rap under the same roof is violence, then you're wrong man.

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Menace Date: Tuesday, 01/Feb/11, 10:45 PM | Message # 66

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Ratmn Date: Tuesday, 01/Feb/11, 10:46 PM | Message # 67

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If the only premise that makes you put gangsta rap and harcore rap under the same roof is violence, then you're wrong man.

Same themes. Did i say ANY TIME ON THE WHOLE THREAD THAT VIOLENCE IS THE ONLY THEME WHERE THEY COLLIDE?

Stop trollin', son. It doesn't work

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well they seem to do only whack and mediocre shit, that's why they should retire when you run out of stories and the gimmick is over, you should retire in glory.

When you do G-Shit, the only way you can turn from that, is to political shit, or retrospective.
They SHOULD had do that. A long time ago



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Greeny Date: Tuesday, 01/Feb/11, 10:49 PM | Message # 68

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Yeah, sorry, it's late, and I was only trying to construct a bad argument to see how it's tackled.

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Ratmn Date: Tuesday, 01/Feb/11, 10:54 PM | Message # 69

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Yeah, sorry, it's late, and I was only trying to construct a bad argument to see how it's tackled.

Well, guess what, you can't troll the Nerd Warlord of this bitch. I'm the BOSS.




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Greeny Date: Tuesday, 01/Feb/11, 10:56 PM | Message # 70

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Wasn't trolling, it was mainly for educational purposes. ^_^

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Menace Date: Tuesday, 01/Feb/11, 10:58 PM | Message # 71

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I actually won because i constructed the most intellectual and sexy arguments of all time :D


eboyd Date: Wednesday, 02/Feb/11, 0:26 AM | Message # 72

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you guys keep bringing this argument up, calling the 90's west shit gangsta rap, and ratmn is calling the NY shit the same, but when i interviewed Kokane he made me aware of something. back in the early 90's when that shit came out, the artists doing it didn't call it gangsta rap, they called it "reality rap". they actually didn't like their music being called gangsta rap. much of the early shit was pseudo-political and all of it spoke of realities in the ghetto more so than glorifying violence there. there is no such thing as "gangsta rap". just as the term "rap" is a fraudulent term that never needed to be appropriated and used to describe what we were already calling "emceeing", "gangsta rap" described a form of hip hop music that was already labeled "reality rap" by the artists performing it. and of course the term itself gained a life of its own and started what basically became a big ass, wack ass movement of wanna-be gang bangers in hip hop.

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abanks47 Date: Wednesday, 02/Feb/11, 0:30 AM | Message # 73

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just to put yall on some game in the west please peep the following and ACTIVE acts from Cali to hear some dope west coast sounds.

Everyone on this forum stays on Blue's nuts too

-Dr. DRE!?!?!
-Madlib
-blue sky black death
-Heiro(previously mentioned)
-Murs
-Grouch & Eligh
-Dilated People
-Evidence (solo shit)
-Living Legens (the above are also a part)
-Fashawn
-DJ Shadow
-P.U.T.S.
-Warcloud (one of my personal favorites)
-Brotha Lynch Hung (who had one of the greatest albums last year overall)
-Aceyalone
-Cypress Hill
-Crooked I
-Zion I
-Ras Kass

If yall haters dont like none of these cats than i truly think you dont know hip hop. sorry

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Ratmn Date: Wednesday, 02/Feb/11, 0:46 AM | Message # 74

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you guys keep bringing this argument up, calling the 90's west shit gangsta rap, and ratmn is calling the NY shit the same, but when i interviewed Kokane he made me aware of something. back in the early 90's when that shit came out, the artists doing it didn't call it gangsta rap, they called it "reality rap". they actually didn't like their music being called gangsta rap. much of the early shit was pseudo-political and all of it spoke of realities in the ghetto more so than glorifying violence there. there is no such thing as "gangsta rap". just as the term "rap" is a fraudulent term that never needed to be appropriated and used to describe what we were already calling "emceeing", "gangsta rap" described a form of hip hop music that was already labeled "reality rap" by the artists performing it. and of course the term itself gained a life of its own and started what basically became a big ass, wack ass movement of wanna-be gang bangers in hip hop.

Two things:

1. You said it yourself. Early 90s. Different times. I was talking about the 1993-1999 era, where it was actually accepted the term by the new generation of that time.
2. How the fuck you meet this people? Conventions and shit?



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eboyd Date: Wednesday, 02/Feb/11, 2:25 AM | Message # 75

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1. You said it yourself. Early 90s. Different times. I was talking about the 1993-1999 era, where it was actually accepted the term by the new generation of that time.

i'm talking about actual hip hop heads. sure, that label got accepted on the mainstream, but fuck the mainstream, lol. that term has never been accepted by real artists that started that shit.

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2. How the fuck you meet this people? Conventions and shit?

lol i met Kokane at Kurupt's album release party, which is where i also met Kam and a few others. DJ Quik was there but i didn't actually get to talk to him. i got at Kokane through his publicist before i talked to him there though. i met a bunch of artists before that on stage at Paid Dues. it also helps that i live in Los Angeles lol.


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